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Old January 25th, 2008, 07:47 PM   #41
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Not really. Can you run all the numbers for me if my resting hr is 65 and my max is 182? And then stick them in the right spots on the colored bars? Thanks! I know you're busy, so if it takes until 3:00 to get it done, that's okay.
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Old January 25th, 2008, 08:39 PM   #42
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Hey Speedy while you're can you do mine too?

My max is 200 but I'm not really sure what my resting HR is now, so can you do it for 45, 50 & 55? Thanks.
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Old January 25th, 2008, 08:56 PM   #43
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use this link and enter your own numbers

And if somebody say "pretty please", I'll make a nice little online-something later today

Speedy, you owe me a cup of coffee for this one
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Old January 25th, 2008, 09:09 PM   #44
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Not really. Can you run all the numbers for me if my resting hr is 65 and my max is 182? And then stick them in the right spots on the colored bars? Thanks! I know you're busy, so if it takes until 3:00 to get it done, that's okay.
50% = 123.5
60% = 135.2
70% = 146.9
80% = 158.6
90% = 170.3
100 % = 182

the decimal I don't know how to "measure" that - but figure that out and I'm sure there's a price for you

What do I get now
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Old January 26th, 2008, 01:05 AM   #45
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Knowin' an doin' are tew different thengs ye wee bastards, she's goan an dun a nice theng fer ye, now whatcha goan dew? eh? That's what ah thought. naught'un.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 01:29 AM   #46
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Birgs, you're a princess among dogs, there can be no doubt. We don't deserve you. Pray let me be the first to bow and shower your path with rose petals. xxoo speedy
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Old January 26th, 2008, 02:11 AM   #47
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Birgs, you're a princess among dogs, there can be no doubt. We don't deserve you. Pray let me be the first to bow and shower your path with rose petals. xxoo speedy

You are SUCH a "fawner", hehe.

A very interesting thread, I WILL look into this with my Dr., ahem, DOCTOR!
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hmmmm here I'm trying to be nice and what do I get but sarcasm

well well I'm just not going to do any nice things online for anybody tonight...
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Old January 26th, 2008, 03:18 AM   #49
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I wasn't being sarcastic.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 03:18 AM   #50
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<speedy skulks off with his bag of rose pedals>
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Old January 26th, 2008, 03:22 AM   #51
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<speedy skulks off with his bag of rose pedals>
What color had you picked for me?

If you choose the right color, maybe I'll start breathing again and stop...
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Old January 26th, 2008, 03:24 AM   #52
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Old January 26th, 2008, 03:30 AM   #53
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a mixture of yellow and pink
Hmm ok then I forgive you...

And back to subject - seriously if you guys want such a "how figure out training zones using the I/O formular" online tool, maybe in colors - do say so, and I'll geek around tomorrow. But I'm not going to "waste" time if nobody really cares for such a tool.

So let me know if the thing is needed and wanted!

Edit: The new and edited version of a training zones chart.

I don't take copyright on it and if you get mighty red in your face and start sweating when reaching for 100%, don't come complaining to me
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Old January 27th, 2008, 02:23 AM   #54
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50% = 123.5
60% = 135.2
70% = 146.9
80% = 158.6
90% = 170.3
100 % = 182

the decimal I don't know how to "measure" that - but figure that out and I'm sure there's a price for you

What do I get now
You're the best, Birgit! Thanks for doing that and making the spreadsheet!
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Old January 27th, 2008, 02:42 AM   #55
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You're the best, Birgit! Thanks for doing that and making the spreadsheet!
Thanks I already got "roses" from Speedy - so just do good in your first marathon based on all this talk about training zones and the few minutes making this was worth it!

And then - just between you and I - I actually made it for myself because -

I thought that the 70% was of MHR and that would give me such a low figure, that it did not make sense but from sit very still and wait to get fit

I did not use the heartrate trainingzones because they did not make sense, now they do - so the thanks should go to O/I or was it mV, for making me aware of the "formular"
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Old January 27th, 2008, 06:32 PM   #56
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seriously if you guys want such a "how figure out training zones using the I/O formular" online tool, maybe in colors - do say so, and I'll geek around tomorrow. But I'm not going to "waste" time if nobody really cares for such a tool.

So let me know if the thing is needed and wanted!

Edit: The new and edited version of a training zones chart.
Thanks Birgit and O/I. Know the training zones are much more meaningful!
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Old January 27th, 2008, 07:13 PM   #57
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Glad to help.
For those of us trying to put some structure to our workouts plan, and becuase we don't have a coach to develop that structure for us, it's a good, useful tool.

I have seen one skater use it to astounding benefit.

After all, we are in the information age, right? A little objective data to help structure your workouts is a good thing.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 01:15 AM   #58
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... so just do good in your first marathon based on all this talk about training zones ...
You got it!
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Old January 28th, 2008, 01:09 PM   #59
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I never paid much attention until I got the Garmin that actually measures it but speedy's favorite chart just looks low. Using the different between MHR and RHR does make sense

My calculation for MHR
220-48 = 172 then I add the +12 adjustment just to put it at the high end of the range= 184 = MHR
RHR = 60. I left my HRM on after skating on Saturday and by the time I had driven home is was at 60.
So my variable would be 124
So at 70% I would be (124 *.7) +60 = 149.

So looking at my last five normal Sunday skates of 16 miles, my average heart rate was between 150 and 155 for over an hour.

That matches the colorful chart from a percentage perspective. The one thing that would make more sense is a range of numbers - using the up to 12 bpm range - into account. Then I suspect most people would be on the chart in the right age column.

If not, maybe 48 is the new 30 !
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Found myself a new maximum heart rate over the past two weekend I hit 208! (this doesn't seem normal). I'm 30,170lb 19% body fat (lost 7 lbs over the last 3 weeks) and in average shape (this is an upgrade to below average a few months ago).

The one thing I have noticed now is that I can hold 180-190 BPM now without dying, my muscles dont cramp like they did before and I don't feel like I'm dying. I'm thinking there are two primary factors causing my heart rate to be so high: (i) I have 55% breathing capacity due to scared lung tissues from asthma and, (ii) I have a mild "sunken chest" forget the medical term, but basically the rib cage forms incorrectly and you have a dip in the sternum area that causes the heart to press up on one side in the shape of a boot. They always told me the heart thing didn't have any effects, but maybe the combination of the two is messing me up. I think maybe I don't have enough oxygen in my bloodstream from my crappy lungs and my heart has to pump extra hard to get the oxygen to my muscles.

Am I crazy and over analyzing or is there anyone else out there that has encountered similar problems?
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