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Old March 10th, 2016, 06:16 PM   #1
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Default Skate Lace Screw-on Eyelets repair solution

I have been looking forever for where to buy this kind of an eyelet for some of my skates where the lace ripped out the hole. Minimum lace hole size is 5/16," but I would like to see one more size smaller at a 1/4" ID though, if anyone knows of another source of these with smaller lace hole option?

These are two pieces that screw together. Not clear how thick of boot layer they can handle though. Applying Shoe Goo around boot hole before assembly (after greasing thread with a touch of silicone lube) should give a combo of squeeze and glue bond that will make it a permanent fix.
Price is stiff at $3.99 EA. maybe a few fixes is not too bad, but doing all eyelets for a pair of soccer shoe skates would require near $100 worth of these. Still a lifesaver for doing fixes though.


[UPDATE] Affordable!! → https://www.etsy.com/listing/2300997...ets?ref=market

Ripoff price → http://www.hardwareelf.com/elf/eyeletsandlacing.jsp

Screw Together Eyelets are available in 3 sizes. The shaft of these eyelets is threaded making it very easy to install, the 2 pieces literally screw together. Solid Brass and available in gold and nickel finish. Order by inside diameter.




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Old March 11th, 2016, 12:35 AM   #2
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This is white noise in white noise out.

Skating requires a boot that can withstand the forces that skating generates, using canvas sneakers will only add to the confusion, rigging them back together is like throwing out the baby with the bathwater, carrying coals to Newcastle, paying actual attention to Do', etc, etc, etc

But hey, why not glue something on?
As long as it gets put in the "correct position", who cares?

The material that the eyelets screw against will disintegrate, unlike leather.
But if you put them in upside down, wait.........another invention

Waiting for pictures of glued back together plates.
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Old March 11th, 2016, 02:02 AM   #3
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This is white noise in white noise out.

Skating requires a boot that can withstand the forces that skating generates, using canvas sneakers will only add to the confusion, rigging them back together is like throwing out the baby with the bathwater, carrying coals to Newcastle, paying actual attention to Do', etc, etc, etc

But hey, why not glue something on?
As long as it gets put in the "correct position", who cares?

The material that the eyelets screw against will disintegrate, unlike leather.
But if you put them in upside down, wait.........another invention

Waiting for pictures of glued back together plates.
I don't use canvas sneakers for serious skates, only experimental ones.
In point of FACT, the better $100+ microfiber basketball shoes, suitable for skate builds, DO use strong materials, many of which are are just as strong as leather of normal skate boots.

The way EVEN the leather skate boots handle the lace forces, AND FRICTION/ABRASION stress, is to have lace EYELETS installed in their LEATHER holes.

I skated my 1st pair of Nike Zoom Air '96 basketball shoes (avatar PIC match) regularly for 10+ years without ripping out any of its multi-layered, reinforced stitching NO-EYELET lace holes. The microfiber did NOT "disintegrate."

For my 2nd pair, I installed eyelets for less lacing friction, but the eyelet metal seemes too thin and weak, and the sharp edge at end of their inner piece tube is often split/jagged there and tears up my laces.

Screw on eyelets are used on some of the best inline skates, so I've wanted to test them on my outdoor quads. Their shoulder is typically wider than eyelets, and it grips over a greater area, so glue is optional --- even with quality NON-leather shoe microfiber material, though I will still use glue for best, strongest results.

You cluelessness on so many topics about which you make baseless, shoot-from-the-hip comments, is so staggering that I tend to just ignore nearly everything you say lately. Plus you are SO SKEPTICAL -- chill out dude.

Panther plate removed after 10+ years outdoor skating



Same Nike BB shoes re-glued onto Omega plates with added (recessed this time) carbon fiber sole stiffener sheet to make my "Semi-DA45" outdoor slalom skate build, and have a faster turning response with the CF added to the sole, to let me do sharp enough all wheels down slalom turns to make me happy:



Started out with an SA suspension:


Then switched over to Semi-DA45 to get the maxed out aggressive turning



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Old March 12th, 2016, 06:59 PM   #4
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This is white noise in white noise out.

Skating requires a boot that can withstand the forces that skating generates, using canvas sneakers will only add to the confusion, rigging them back together is like throwing out the baby with the bathwater, carrying coals to Newcastle, paying actual attention to Do', etc, etc, etc

But hey, why not glue something on?
As long as it gets put in the "correct position", who cares?

The material that the eyelets screw against will disintegrate, unlike leather.
But if you put them in upside down, wait.........another invention

Waiting for pictures of glued back together plates.
Can you ever be constructive? Seriously.

Ive fixed eyelets with old torn apart rivets that came apart , a pair of pliars, and shoegoo before. Held up just fine and is still working. On leather and synthetics both. All it takes is a bad rivet to mess everything up.

Im glad there are eyelets like richard had found.
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Old March 12th, 2016, 11:09 PM   #5
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Good find Richard. Don't need them now, but something to keep in mind.
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Old March 13th, 2016, 03:22 PM   #6
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I don't use canvas sneakers for serious skates, only experimental ones.In point of FACT, the better $100+ microfiber basketball shoes, suitable for skate builds, DO use strong materials, many of which are are just as strong as leather of normal skate boots.

You cluelessness on so many topics about which you make baseless, shoot-from-the-hip comments, is so staggering that I tend to just ignore nearly everything you say lately. Plus you are SO SKEPTICAL -- chill out dude.
I will at my leisure once again point out that when white noise goes in white noise comes out.
Screw in eyelets, replacement eyelets, nothing new, and again, when you use something meant to walk or run in to skate, however poorly, it (sneaker) will wear out, and "cobbing" it to use it again is just pointless, but pointless get a lot of air time when you don't realize the problem, luckily, others will point out ignorance, always, so that an unknowing individual is spared injury, the clueless series of events leading to these clueless situations are the problem, glad to help

Enjoying the belly laugh, thinking how much I made from dinar this year, and how suddenly the earth is being plunged into the ice age, due to contrails, but "cluelessness" isn't the correct term.
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Old March 13th, 2016, 06:47 PM   #7
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I will at my leisure once again point out that when white noise goes in white noise comes out.
Screw in eyelets, replacement eyelets, nothing new, and again, when you use something meant to walk or run in to skate, however poorly, it (sneaker) will wear out, and "cobbing" it to use it again is just pointless, but pointless get a lot of air time when you don't realize the problem, luckily, others will point out ignorance, always, so that an unknowing individual is spared injury, the clueless series of events leading to these clueless situations are the problem, glad to help

shoes.
... blah, blah, blah
The most "unknowing individual" here is the one sitting in his armchair spouting off critical nonsense about things with which he has ZERO real world, first person hands on experience.
I have the PICs, I have the results, I have the near 2 decades of success assembling durable high performance skate builds using athletic shoes.

My "cobbled" Nike premium BB shoes have extremely effective lateral foot and heel counter structure, made from structural foac and carbon fiber fabric reinforced plastic sheet - better than most skate boots ever made.

If they can hold up well enough to still work well after ten years of serious outdoor skating, I will gladly make the effort to continue maintaining them for another five or more, and these screw on eyelets are just the kind of a nice H/W option for accomplishing that.

Skate boot leather holes will rip out too, as will leather D-ring anchors.

Leather eyelet holes will become stretched out into oval shape, making eyelet replacement ineffective.

The screw thread assembled eyelet solves these lace hole rip out and eyelet failure problems as well as any alternative (if they will fit), regardless of what kind of materials have the problems.

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I will at my leisure once again point out that when white noise goes in white noise comes out.
Screw in eyelets, replacement eyelets, nothing new, and again, when you use something meant to walk or run in to skate, however poorly, it (sneaker) will wear out, and "cobbing" it to use it again is just pointless, but pointless get a lot of air time when you don't realize the problem, luckily, others will point out ignorance, always, so that an unknowing individual is spared injury, the clueless series of events leading to these clueless situations are the problem, glad to help

Enjoying the belly laugh, thinking how much I made from dinar this year, and how suddenly the earth is being plunged into the ice age, due to contrails, but "cluelessness" isn't the correct term.
Ive seen and personally blown out "skate boots" and have NEVER blown out a soccer cleat. Or a basketball shoe. Ontop of that the lateral forces a skate generates vs your typical athletic footwear is not as great. A skate leans, and some of that lateral force becomes displaced on a vertical plane. Thus your not stressing the footwear as much.

I've torn up more eyelets in skate footwear than any athletic shoes.

Now where do you come up with this rhetoric (poor attempts at that)? About how injuries happen., how you think building skates from non traditional footwear is bad, how you think modifying a plates alignment to suit a skater or the task at hand is bad. Maybe if you did more diverse skating and immersed yourself more into it than a freaking tennis court youd quit flogging this dead horse you always go on about.

This thread went from eyelet replacement options to your self righteous bull.
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Ive seen and personally blown out "skate boots" and have NEVER blown out a soccer cleat. Or a basketball shoe. Ontop of that the lateral forces a skate generates vs your typical athletic footwear is not as great. A skate leans, and some of that lateral force becomes displaced on a vertical plane. Thus your not stressing the footwear as much.

I've torn up more eyelets in skate footwear than any athletic shoes.

Now where do you come up with this rhetoric (poor attempts at that)? About how injuries happen., how you think building skates from non traditional footwear is bad, how you think modifying a plates alignment to suit a skater or the task at hand is bad. Maybe if you did more diverse skating and immersed yourself more into it than a freaking tennis court youd quit flogging this dead horse you always go on about.

This thread went from eyelet replacement options to your self righteous bull.
Thanks Mort. Somebody had to say it. I don't see why Ursle needs to pounce on every suggestion.
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Thanks Mort. Somebody had to say it. I don't see why Ursle needs to pounce on every suggestion.
Well if it was intelligent argument on the topic at hand... its just mostly the same thing over and over.

Objective things like: How well are they threaded? How will they keep from comming loose? Will they adequately pinch the material to increase the load displacement abilities of that eyelet so a tear won't happen?

Those things mainly answered after use tho.
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Well if it was intelligent argument on the topic at hand... its just mostly the same thing over and over.

Objective things like: How well are they threaded? How will they keep from comming loose? Will they adequately pinch the material to increase the load displacement abilities of that eyelet so a tear won't happen?

Those things mainly answered after use tho.
As mentioned earlier in the thread for also keeping normal eyelets in place, a well placed dab of Shoe Goo under the grip shoulder will help with the threaded one to reduce tightening friction/torque, raise materisl crush/grip force, and prevent unloosening after it sets up.

An additional, pre assembly thin coating if silicone on only the thread should keep the Shoe Goo from making it an irreversibly permanent assembly too.

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