S k a t e L o g     F o r u m
Inline Skating and Quad Roller Skating
Forum Hosts: Jessica Wright | Kathie Fry

FOLLOW US: Our Blog | Facebook | Twitter | Email    


Home - Forum Index - Africa Skating - Asia Skating - Europe Skating - Oceania Skating - Pan America Skating - Roller_Rinks - Friend the SkateLog Forum in Facebook - SkateLog Forum on Facebook

Forum Administrators: Jessica Wright and Kathie Fry | Email Us
Access code for buying and selling subforums: "skates"
How To Get a User Account and Posting Privileges in the SkateLog Forum
Use Google to Search the SkateLog Forum

Go Back   SkateLog Forum > Special Interest Skating Forums (sorted by number of posts) > Roller Dance and Session Skating Forum
FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Roller Dance and Session Skating Forum Discussions about roller dancing, jamskating, rexing, rink session skating, dance circle skating, and similar types of recreational indoor and outdoor skate dancing .

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old August 1st, 2014, 11:01 AM   #21
Edward Williams
Still Learning...
 
Edward Williams's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 3,794
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knezz View Post
Rhythm Skating is faster than Shuffle in quite a bit of it (in my opinion). Rhythm also includes it's style of fast forward and fast backwards.
Hmmm...
__________________
De gustibus non est disputandum.
Edward Williams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 1st, 2014, 11:27 AM   #22
jbgerman
Senior Member
 
jbgerman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Berlin, Germany
Posts: 588
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knezz View Post
Rhythm Skating is faster than Shuffle in quite a bit of it (in my opinion). Rhythm also includes it's style of fast forward and fast backwards.
Philly style Fast Backwards?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US-etZXmtmU
jbgerman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 1st, 2014, 01:40 PM   #23
Mort
Sk8 Ninja
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Huntington Wv
Posts: 3,266
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbgerman View Post
Philly style Fast Backwards?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US-etZXmtmU
Thats a good amount of backwards skaters on a rink, its good to see a large click of people actaully moving better than a snails pace.

I wouldn't call that fast backwards skating though.


I had to laugh at that video when near the end some people fell and you can hear a guy say "you gonna learn today!" - LOL
__________________
Home rink: Roll-A-Rama in Huntington Wv.
"Focus on form and speed is a byproduct, focus on speed and falling is a byproduct." - Matguy
Mort is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 1st, 2014, 02:31 PM   #24
Edward Williams
Still Learning...
 
Edward Williams's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 3,794
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbgerman View Post
Philly style Fast Backwards?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US-etZXmtmU
Same style of fast backward we do here. We do a couple of others as well.
__________________
De gustibus non est disputandum.

Last edited by Edward Williams; August 1st, 2014 at 03:46 PM.
Edward Williams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 1st, 2014, 11:39 PM   #25
Knezz
Olde School And Olde
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 165
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbgerman View Post
Philly style Fast Backwards?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US-etZXmtmU
Not to be rude (when someone places a disclaimer you know what's to follow) but that isn't the fast backwards I remember. It is a little slow.

These are better examples:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OBc5Mr5U_zo
Melinium - I have skated here. Very friendly people and management. The floor could use some work but the atmosphere helps overcome that.

Franklinville - I skater here 35 years ago. Clean and large with a great floor as I remember.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c37qIglq0MY

The idea is to skate as close to the wall as possible all the way around. Multiple people skating together allows them to go faster (Train). It's heck on the first person at times has he/she can be pulling the group somewhat. At times the other skaters can push the first person but that can make the "train" look sloppy as it can get out of line. We back then would go faster than the videos.
__________________
Regards,
Knezz

Last edited by Knezz; August 2nd, 2014 at 11:16 AM.
Knezz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 2nd, 2014, 02:40 PM   #26
Mort
Sk8 Ninja
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Huntington Wv
Posts: 3,266
Default

I want to go to Millennium so bad. They have the best video of fast backwards I think I've seen so far. I can't tell how fast they are really going but its the fastest looking one I've been able to find.

A friend of mine and I were cranking it out last night backwards. Dude made a cut through some traffic that was unrealistic. I talked with him just after it and asked him" that was one of thise, you HAVE TO make it cuts wasn't it? Because your all out of options." He goes " YEA! haha it was intense"
Another "wish I had a gopro" moment...

EDIT:
Heres a video from Eight Wheels 2013. Last songs opposite direction skate. At 1:18-1:22 you can see someone go floating backwards on the outside passing everyone. That maniac is my bro Scottie. That is fast backwards. Heres a link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHRGKT-URSY
__________________
Home rink: Roll-A-Rama in Huntington Wv.
"Focus on form and speed is a byproduct, focus on speed and falling is a byproduct." - Matguy
Mort is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 2nd, 2014, 03:39 PM   #27
Knezz
Olde School And Olde
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 165
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mort View Post
I want to go to Millennium so bad. They have the best video of fast backwards I think I've seen so far. I can't tell how fast they are really going but its the fastest looking one I've been able to find.

A friend of mine and I were cranking it out last night backwards. Dude made a cut through some traffic that was unrealistic. I talked with him just after it and asked him" that was one of thise, you HAVE TO make it cuts wasn't it? Because your all out of options." He goes " YEA! haha it was intense"
Another "wish I had a gopro" moment...

EDIT:
Heres a video from Eight Wheels 2013. Last songs opposite direction skate. At 1:18-1:22 you can see someone go floating backwards on the outside passing everyone. That maniac is my bro Scottie. That is fast backwards. Heres a link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHRGKT-URSY
Usually in Rhythm fast backwards the leg near the wall stays relatively straight during the skating, leaving the inside leg to do most of the propelling (pushing the leg in and out). That outside leg is used to do the crossovers as one turns the corners. One would skate and inch or two from the wall. The skater usually looks over the shoulder of that outside leg to see where he/ she is going.

The style in the video is a roller skating style similar to the style used in ice skating (opposite of Rhythm skating). I'm not saying one style is better than the other - just different.

Anyone care to comment on there observations?
__________________
Regards,
Knezz

Last edited by Knezz; August 2nd, 2014 at 06:55 PM.
Knezz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 2nd, 2014, 07:14 PM   #28
Mort
Sk8 Ninja
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Huntington Wv
Posts: 3,266
Default

I dont mean to imply that this video I linked is any kind of rhythm skating, or shuffle... at this point as everyone is preparing to leave for the most part. Just what I consider fast, the blur at 1:18-1:22 on the outside in what seems to be a gray shirt and blue jeans(scottie).

Rhythm and shuffle are close to each other, but to me a shuffle line will contain many different movements, close quarter skating and usually a fast pace.

Rhythm is almost the same, the main difference is most if not all of the line is in synch with each other. Be it simple strides or advanced backwards close quarters skating. The footwork is almost identical. In some cases if its not identical skates bump and falls often follow.
__________________
Home rink: Roll-A-Rama in Huntington Wv.
"Focus on form and speed is a byproduct, focus on speed and falling is a byproduct." - Matguy
Mort is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 3rd, 2014, 01:37 PM   #29
Holiday Guy
Doing It Old School
 
Holiday Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 2,524
Default

Here's one at my other rink Palace we don't call it fast backwards skate it's Advance Backward Skate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HY2l7BXGRE


This is South of us Elmwood Skating Rink in Del.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLtT9E20ZtA

__________________
[LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL] [ JERSEY SHUFFLER][FRIEND OF THE DRAGON CREW]
Holiday Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 3rd, 2014, 09:11 PM   #30
Edward Williams
Still Learning...
 
Edward Williams's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 3,794
Default

South Side!
__________________
De gustibus non est disputandum.
Edward Williams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 3rd, 2014, 09:27 PM   #31
Entropy
Disorderly member
 
Entropy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Qld, Australia
Posts: 33
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyBoySk8s View Post
I love Rhythm/JB/Groove: Keeps me on my toes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVRYsR4IuXE
Oh. My. Dog. Never seen skating like this, must learn, must learn!!! I'd love to develop some real skill in my skating beyond "go fast / turn left / brace for impact" derby stuff. Would be like taking a racehorse that only knows the same stuff and teaching it eventing & dressage skills, everything beyond the basics I've considered 'skills' so far.

I have a new goal!
__________________
Entropy: The natural tendency of a system to spontaneously decay into disorder and chaos; kinda like what happens when I skate.....
Entropy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 3rd, 2014, 10:14 PM   #32
Knezz
Olde School And Olde
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 165
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Edward Williams View Post
South Side!
Really (Elmwood) it's in Southwest Philly (Philadelphia). It is a small rink that is about 70 years old. It was a place that sported organ music back the day (before my time). In the late 60's - early 70's the organ music was replace by a DJ and eventually R&B music. It was the rink to attend in Philadelphia despite it's size. It's now owned by a person who was a security guard and floor guard for years. I haven't seen the place in 3 decades but I read that some think that it needs some work on its floor and facility. Others have said it is old school great.
__________________
Regards,
Knezz

Last edited by Knezz; August 4th, 2014 at 04:13 AM.
Knezz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 4th, 2014, 08:39 PM   #33
Knezz
Olde School And Olde
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 165
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Holiday Guy View Post
Here's one at my other rink Palace we don't call it fast backwards skate it's Advance Backward Skate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HY2l7BXGRE


This is South of us Elmwood Skating Rink in Del.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLtT9E20ZtA

Elmwood is an R&B rink. Small neighborhood rink in Southwest Philadelphia .- in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania not Delaware. Not too far from the Philly Airport. Some say it's out of date. Others say it's old school good. Is nested in an inner-city neighborhood.

The Palace is in Northeast Philadelphia (opposite side of the city compared to Elmwood). It is mainly a Shuffle skating rink. It is a decent size (close to double the size of Elmwood). It is on a large thoroughfare (US-1 / Roosevelt Blvd) on a commercial strip. It is clean.

Pick your poison!!!
__________________
Regards,
Knezz

Last edited by Knezz; August 4th, 2014 at 09:57 PM.
Knezz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 5th, 2014, 12:25 AM   #34
DannyBoySk8s
Style Skater
 
DannyBoySk8s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 212
Default Inspired and moving on up!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Entropy View Post
Oh. My. Dog. Never seen skating like this, must learn, must learn!!! I'd love to develop some real skill in my skating beyond "go fast / turn left / brace for impact" derby stuff. Would be like taking a racehorse that only knows the same stuff and teaching it eventing & dressage skills, everything beyond the basics I've considered 'skills' so far.

I have a new goal!
I am so glad that you can appreciate the footwork showcased in this video! In my humble opinion, when it comes to JB/Rhythm/Groove skating, this guy is the best I have ever seen!
Note that his skates are JB classic, old school, high top and heals boot with a classic rear mounted, plate where the front axle is mounted under the ball of the foot!
I watch this video frequently and it challenges me every time I see it!

Cheers,

Dan
DannyBoySk8s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 5th, 2014, 12:39 AM   #35
Derrick
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Northeastern Indiana
Posts: 1,296
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyBoySk8s View Post
I love Rhythm/JB/Groove: Keeps me on my toes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVRYsR4IuXE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjsTL6EyN38

Creative Dance Shuffle can be fun as well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-z79M6Bm1o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQW-Gi_QtIc

Strait Step/Bounce Shuffle at warp 9 on the outside ...not so much.
Too much like go fast turn left. No Video Required.


Cheers,

Dan
Could only see two out of four, like both, like the jam a bit more, that's some sweet skating, I like that they skip the floor work, although I saw some pretty good one handed handstands this weekend.

Well it's all good stuff.

Last edited by Derrick; August 5th, 2014 at 12:39 AM. Reason: cant count
Derrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 5th, 2014, 01:29 AM   #36
Knezz
Olde School And Olde
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 165
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyBoySk8s View Post
I love Rhythm/JB/Groove: Keeps me on my toes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVRYsR4IuXE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjsTL6EyN38

Creative Dance Shuffle can be fun as well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-z79M6Bm1o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQW-Gi_QtIc

Strait Step/Bounce Shuffle at warp 9 on the outside ...not so much.
Too much like go fast turn left. No Video Required.


Cheers,

Dan
Unfortunately, I have never skated to organ music. Johnny Sharp is pounding great sound out of those keys. Those skaters can do so Rhythm skating if they wish.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RQW-Gi_QtIc
I really like whatever the old couple were doing at the end.


They have the Rhythm Skating going on. Pom Poms are old school. Are they back?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LjsTL6EyN38
__________________
Regards,
Knezz
Knezz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 5th, 2014, 01:58 AM   #37
DannyBoySk8s
Style Skater
 
DannyBoySk8s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 212
Default Video 1 and 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by Derrick View Post
Could only see two out of four, like both, like the jam a bit more, that's some sweet skating, I like that they skip the floor work, although I saw some pretty good one handed handstands this weekend.

Well it's all good stuff.
I sincerely hope you were able to see the first video. If not, you should be able to look it up on You Tube: Rare Groove & Rollerskating Act XII.

The second video is also on You Tube: Quad City Cuttaz JB Skating Wednesday Aug 8th B Rock & B Smooth.

Some videos do not work on Tablets or Cell Phones but will work on computers.

Hope this helps,

Dan
DannyBoySk8s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 5th, 2014, 02:05 AM   #38
DannyBoySk8s
Style Skater
 
DannyBoySk8s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 212
Default Pom Poms

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knezz View Post
Unfortunately, I have never skated to organ music. Johnny Sharp is pounding great sound out of those keys. Those skaters can do so Rhythm skating if they wish.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RQW-Gi_QtIc
I really like whatever the old couple were doing at the end.


They have the Rhythm Skating going on. Pom Poms are old school. Are they back?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LjsTL6EyN38
Pom Poms are on sale at the rink but only generate interest with the kids.
Personally I think that they would hinder serious footwork but the kids like them.

Cheers,

Dan
DannyBoySk8s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 5th, 2014, 05:59 AM   #39
DannyBoySk8s
Style Skater
 
DannyBoySk8s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 212
Default Roller Dance & Footwork

JB/Rhythm/Groove/Roller Dance all involve intricate footwork that I find fascinating and challenging.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiqEsKGbn6Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXx9-Uo0r4o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVRYsR4IuXE


Cheers,

Dan
DannyBoySk8s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 5th, 2014, 10:41 AM   #40
Knezz
Olde School And Olde
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 165
Default

Thanks for sharing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiqEsKGbn6Q
They are playing Funkorama (Eddie Harris). I think this is awesome, smooth and can fit into and Rhythm session at any rink.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXx9-Uo0r4o
I think this looks good because there are two skaters in sync. Alone nowhere as good as the first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVRYsR4IuXE
I'm on my iPad so couldn't see this one.
__________________
Regards,
Knezz
Knezz is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.