Shuffle/Rhythm Skating: Definitions

[Edward Williams]

Originally Posted by Knezz

Rhythm Skating is faster than Shuffle in quite a bit of it (in my opinion). Rhythm also includes it's style of fast forward and fast backwards.

Hmmm...

[jbgerman]

Originally Posted by Knezz

Rhythm Skating is faster than Shuffle in quite a bit of it (in my opinion). Rhythm also includes it's style of fast forward and fast backwards.

Philly style Fast Backwards?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US-etZXmtmU

[Mort]

Originally Posted by jbgerman

Philly style Fast Backwards?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US-etZXmtmU

Thats a good amount of backwards skaters on a rink, its good to see a large click of people actaully moving better than a snails pace.

I wouldn't call that fast backwards skating though.


I had to laugh at that video when near the end some people fell and you can hear a guy say "you gonna learn today!" - LOL

[Edward Williams]

Originally Posted by jbgerman

Philly style Fast Backwards?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US-etZXmtmU

Same style of fast backward we do here. We do a couple of others as well.

[Knezz]

Originally Posted by jbgerman

Philly style Fast Backwards?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US-etZXmtmU

Not to be rude (when someone places a disclaimer you know what's to follow) but that isn't the fast backwards I remember. It is a little slow.

These are better examples:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OBc5Mr5U_zo
Melinium - I have skated here. Very friendly people and management. The floor could use some work but the atmosphere helps overcome that.

Franklinville - I skater here 35 years ago. Clean and large with a great floor as I remember.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c37qIglq0MY

The idea is to skate as close to the wall as possible all the way around. Multiple people skating together allows them to go faster (Train). It's heck on the first person at times has he/she can be pulling the group somewhat. At times the other skaters can push the first person but that can make the "train" look sloppy as it can get out of line. We back then would go faster than the videos.

[Mort]

I want to go to Millennium so bad. They have the best video of fast backwards I think I've seen so far. I can't tell how fast they are really going but its the fastest looking one I've been able to find.

A friend of mine and I were cranking it out last night backwards. Dude made a cut through some traffic that was unrealistic. I talked with him just after it and asked him" that was one of thise, you HAVE TO make it cuts wasn't it? Because your all out of options." He goes " YEA! haha it was intense"
Another "wish I had a gopro" moment...

EDIT:
Heres a video from Eight Wheels 2013. Last songs opposite direction skate. At 1:18-1:22 you can see someone go floating backwards on the outside passing everyone. That maniac is my bro Scottie. That is fast backwards. Heres a link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHRGKT-URSY

[Knezz]

Originally Posted by Mort

I want to go to Millennium so bad. They have the best video of fast backwards I think I've seen so far. I can't tell how fast they are really going but its the fastest looking one I've been able to find.

A friend of mine and I were cranking it out last night backwards. Dude made a cut through some traffic that was unrealistic. I talked with him just after it and asked him" that was one of thise, you HAVE TO make it cuts wasn't it? Because your all out of options." He goes " YEA! haha it was intense"
Another "wish I had a gopro" moment...

EDIT:
Heres a video from Eight Wheels 2013. Last songs opposite direction skate. At 1:18-1:22 you can see someone go floating backwards on the outside passing everyone. That maniac is my bro Scottie. That is fast backwards. Heres a link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHRGKT-URSY

Usually in Rhythm fast backwards the leg near the wall stays relatively straight during the skating, leaving the inside leg to do most of the propelling (pushing the leg in and out). That outside leg is used to do the crossovers as one turns the corners. One would skate and inch or two from the wall. The skater usually looks over the shoulder of that outside leg to see where he/ she is going.

The style in the video is a roller skating style similar to the style used in ice skating (opposite of Rhythm skating). I'm not saying one style is better than the other - just different.

Anyone care to comment on there observations?

[Mort]

I dont mean to imply that this video I linked is any kind of rhythm skating, or shuffle... at this point as everyone is preparing to leave for the most part. Just what I consider fast, the blur at 1:18-1:22 on the outside in what seems to be a gray shirt and blue jeans(scottie).

Rhythm and shuffle are close to each other, but to me a shuffle line will contain many different movements, close quarter skating and usually a fast pace.

Rhythm is almost the same, the main difference is most if not all of the line is in synch with each other. Be it simple strides or advanced backwards close quarters skating. The footwork is almost identical. In some cases if its not identical skates bump and falls often follow.

[Holiday Guy]

Here's one at my other rink Palace we don't call it fast backwards skate it's Advance Backward Skate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HY2l7BXGRE


This is South of us Elmwood Skating Rink in Del.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLtT9E20ZtA

[Edward Williams]

South Side!

[Entropy]

Originally Posted by DannyBoySk8s

I love Rhythm/JB/Groove: Keeps me on my toes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVRYsR4IuXE

Oh. My. Dog. Never seen skating like this, must learn, must learn!!! I'd love to develop some real skill in my skating beyond "go fast / turn left / brace for impact" derby stuff. Would be like taking a racehorse that only knows the same stuff and teaching it eventing & dressage skills, everything beyond the basics I've considered 'skills' so far.

I have a new goal!

[Knezz]

Originally Posted by Edward Williams

South Side!

Really (Elmwood) it's in Southwest Philly (Philadelphia). It is a small rink that is about 70 years old. It was a place that sported organ music back the day (before my time). In the late 60's - early 70's the organ music was replace by a DJ and eventually R&B music. It was the rink to attend in Philadelphia despite it's size. It's now owned by a person who was a security guard and floor guard for years. I haven't seen the place in 3 decades but I read that some think that it needs some work on its floor and facility. Others have said it is old school great.

[Knezz]

Originally Posted by Holiday Guy

Here's one at my other rink Palace we don't call it fast backwards skate it's Advance Backward Skate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HY2l7BXGRE


This is South of us Elmwood Skating Rink in Del.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLtT9E20ZtA

Elmwood is an R&B rink. Small neighborhood rink in Southwest Philadelphia .- in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania not Delaware. Not too far from the Philly Airport. Some say it's out of date. Others say it's old school good. Is nested in an inner-city neighborhood.

The Palace is in Northeast Philadelphia (opposite side of the city compared to Elmwood). It is mainly a Shuffle skating rink. It is a decent size (close to double the size of Elmwood). It is on a large thoroughfare (US-1 / Roosevelt Blvd) on a commercial strip. It is clean.

Pick your poison!!!

[DannyBoySk8s]

Originally Posted by Entropy

Oh. My. Dog. Never seen skating like this, must learn, must learn!!! I'd love to develop some real skill in my skating beyond "go fast / turn left / brace for impact" derby stuff. Would be like taking a racehorse that only knows the same stuff and teaching it eventing & dressage skills, everything beyond the basics I've considered 'skills' so far.

I have a new goal!

I am so glad that you can appreciate the footwork showcased in this video! In my humble opinion, when it comes to JB/Rhythm/Groove skating, this guy is the best I have ever seen!
Note that his skates are JB classic, old school, high top and heals boot with a classic rear mounted, plate where the front axle is mounted under the ball of the foot!
I watch this video frequently and it challenges me every time I see it!

Cheers,

Dan

[Derrick]

Originally Posted by DannyBoySk8s

I love Rhythm/JB/Groove: Keeps me on my toes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVRYsR4IuXE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjsTL6EyN38

Creative Dance Shuffle can be fun as well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-z79M6Bm1o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQW-Gi_QtIc

Strait Step/Bounce Shuffle at warp 9 on the outside ...not so much.
Too much like go fast turn left. No Video Required.


Cheers,

Dan

Could only see two out of four, like both, like the jam a bit more, that's some sweet skating, I like that they skip the floor work, although I saw some pretty good one handed handstands this weekend.

Well it's all good stuff.

[Knezz]

Originally Posted by DannyBoySk8s

I love Rhythm/JB/Groove: Keeps me on my toes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVRYsR4IuXE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjsTL6EyN38

Creative Dance Shuffle can be fun as well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-z79M6Bm1o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQW-Gi_QtIc

Strait Step/Bounce Shuffle at warp 9 on the outside ...not so much.
Too much like go fast turn left. No Video Required.


Cheers,

Dan

Unfortunately, I have never skated to organ music. Johnny Sharp is pounding great sound out of those keys. Those skaters can do so Rhythm skating if they wish.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RQW-Gi_QtIc
I really like whatever the old couple were doing at the end.


They have the Rhythm Skating going on. Pom Poms are old school. Are they back?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LjsTL6EyN38

[DannyBoySk8s]

Originally Posted by Derrick

Could only see two out of four, like both, like the jam a bit more, that's some sweet skating, I like that they skip the floor work, although I saw some pretty good one handed handstands this weekend.

Well it's all good stuff.

I sincerely hope you were able to see the first video. If not, you should be able to look it up on You Tube: Rare Groove & Rollerskating Act XII.

The second video is also on You Tube: Quad City Cuttaz JB Skating Wednesday Aug 8th B Rock & B Smooth.

Some videos do not work on Tablets or Cell Phones but will work on computers.

Hope this helps,

Dan

[DannyBoySk8s]

Originally Posted by Knezz

Unfortunately, I have never skated to organ music. Johnny Sharp is pounding great sound out of those keys. Those skaters can do so Rhythm skating if they wish.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RQW-Gi_QtIc
I really like whatever the old couple were doing at the end.


They have the Rhythm Skating going on. Pom Poms are old school. Are they back?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LjsTL6EyN38

Pom Poms are on sale at the rink but only generate interest with the kids.
Personally I think that they would hinder serious footwork but the kids like them.

Cheers,

Dan

[DannyBoySk8s]

JB/Rhythm/Groove/Roller Dance all involve intricate footwork that I find fascinating and challenging.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiqEsKGbn6Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXx9-Uo0r4o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVRYsR4IuXE


Cheers,

Dan

[Knezz]

Thanks for sharing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiqEsKGbn6Q
They are playing Funkorama (Eddie Harris). I think this is awesome, smooth and can fit into and Rhythm session at any rink.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXx9-Uo0r4o
I think this looks good because there are two skaters in sync. Alone nowhere as good as the first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVRYsR4IuXE
I'm on my iPad so couldn't see this one.