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Ask DocSk8 (Expert Indoor Skate Building Advice) This forum is different then the other SkateLog forums in that it is not a discussion forum, but rather a place you can ask skate building expert Fred "DocSk8" Benjamin about building and repairing indoor speed, derby, and jamskate quad roller skates. Please start a new thread for each new question.

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Old September 24th, 2018, 04:30 AM   #1
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Default Durable outdoor build similar to indoor build?

Hello DocSk8!

I really need some help here. Iíve had my dream skates for a few years now (Riedell 195 Redline, Labeda Proline, Rollerbones Turbo 88a, Bones Ceramic) and simply love them. Theyíre a dream on the maple floor, although I still havenít found quite the ideal insole yet (Superfeet so far, but thatís another issue...). Hereís a link to them if youíre curious, Iím still proud of them! Jam'N'Speed West built them.

Anyway, the issue I have now is that my boys have discovered scooting at the skate park, and today I took my quads with me. I had an absolute blast and was surprised how quickly I got used to going up and down the hills. I would have been more daring, but my Proline has a mirror finish on it, my boot has no scuffs on it, and Iíd like to keep it that way.

I want to get a ďskate parkĒ skate thatís really geometrically similar to my 195/Redline skates. Iím open to any boot as long as it doesnít have a heal (I know youíre fond of Bont boots, Iíve been team Riedell my whole life but am game to trying something new). Iíve also skated on a Reactor or Proline for a lot of years, but am not averse to a nylon plate as long as itís not 45 degrees.

Iíd like to spend the minimum to get me to the geometry Iím used to, and have a secret hope that youíll recommend something that I end up liking even more!

TLDR: Need a boot/plate recommendation for something that can take a beating, similar to 195/Proline.

I really appreciate the time you take to help us!

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Old September 24th, 2018, 07:16 AM   #2
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Gonna need to ponder this a bit. Pacer used to make a plastic Pro Line called the Hard Candy. It would need some suspension work to behave like your Pro Line and I'm not certain the durability would be there. A used Reactor may be the best bet. Same for the boots, although I don't think a 195 red line would be easy to find used. If you went with a Bont, a low ankle Quad Racer would be as close as you could come to the 195 I think.


Anyway this will take some thought. Sorry I don't have a magic answer off the top of my head.
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Old September 24th, 2018, 11:59 PM   #3
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Thanks so much! After I posted my issue, I learned that Riedell created a new boot, the Solaris, Iím sure youíve heard of it. Itís obviously not cheap, but I was leaning towards giving it a try along with the PowerDyne nylon Reactor, same geometry as the Reactor and ProLine, but much cheaper. Not expecting to drop $400 on a pair of outdoor skates, but curious if the Solaris lives up to the marketing material...
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Thanks so much! After I posted my issue, I learned that Riedell created a new boot, the Solaris, Iím sure youíve heard of it. Itís obviously not cheap, but I was leaning towards giving it a try along with the PowerDyne nylon Reactor, same geometry as the Reactor and ProLine, but much cheaper. Not expecting to drop $400 on a pair of outdoor skates, but curious if the Solaris lives up to the marketing material...
The Solaris C/AA last means it has a tight heel. Only a couple around here playing derby. Mine got bought. Not bad and probably worth the money.


The Fuse is recommended to be used w/ 62mm or smaller wheels. Most of the good outdoor wheels are 65mm and up.


I am amused by the toe stop claim. I have yet to see a inserted plastic plate that the insert and stop would not pull out of. Even a OG Laser hard nose.


Same geometry as a Pro Line?? Yeah the Pro Line art plate was 10į.. The speed plate was 5į. That said, I recollect measuring a Reactor @ 5į @ one point in time. I don't much trust advertising anymore. You know..."Trust but verify."??
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Maybe Novas with either Bont Racers or even footy boots?
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