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Yes those are some good ideas indeed. I think for now I am going to stay with what I have. I like to try new things, but it just too much money. I think the dance plate is way overpriced right now anyway. I guess because it is new and for now they can get away with it.
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That's a good way to go. I would be the first to admit there is probably little bang for your buck in them.
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It would be considered high-end except for maybe the plates.
297 boots are not cheap. The wheels are top of the line and the Mistral plate I gather is right in the middle when considering spending big dollar for plates. 50 percent of the "session" skaters hate the Dance Plate or Imperial and the other half seem to like them. Most people just want a stable platform they can count on...i.e. a plate like the Energy. The only plate I would recommend to anybody considering the Dance plate, would be to push them towards the Roll Line "Ring" plate, which you cannot buy anymore. If a pair ever comes on the market that is your size, buy them and you will probably love them. At first glance they look like a Dance plate. Basically they are, but the truck action has been toned down enormously, but has a lot more wobble than normal for those who want to step out of the "Box". I highly recommend this plate. It's a great plate for the amateur and professional alike. Good luck and buy some Bones Ceramic bearings. Larry O ![]() |
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I was thinking about your post and came to the conclusion you had the answer before you even asked the question.
You have a Roll Line Mistral plate mounted to a Riedell 297 boot. What ever the size of the Mistral plate is, is the size plate you should order when you order your Dance plate. If you have a 180 Mistral plate, order a 180 Dance plate. Done deal end of question. Took me a while to figure out what you were asking...lol! Now, on a different note, its funny people don't talk about the Roll Line Matrix plate or the Roll Line Evol plate. Seems to me those would be two plates people would like to try way before a Dance Plate???? Next the hottest plate on the market now is the Kinetrics at a cool 650 dollars. If you want to dream, you might consider that plate. One competitor bought a pair. He don't say much and just said "Best Plate I have ever bought" and it is not considered a "Dance" plate and he's won about 20 National titles in Dance and he is using it for Dance Competition. ![]() Thanks for the Post, Larry Otani |
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As for my comment to larryoracing, it was never intended to be mean or malicious. It was met to be playfully frank, but with only text and smileys it's hard to pull off. You have my most sincere apologies. For the record no one is arrogant and no one is ornery. Well, I'm ornery, but I'm cool with it. My guess is larryoracing did not even blink, took no offence. I'd insert a peace icon, but I don't see one listed. Forums should have those.
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It was a complicated question, I was mostly just curious. I don't have the funds or enough need (Ha! maybe your were right) to be buying expensive plates right now. But yes, I found out what I wanted to know indirectly. The question: Roll Line Dance Plate on a size 11 Riedell 297 boot - Can it be done? The answer: Yes, but probably not done well. The Roll Line Dance Plate 180 will not line up right on the size 11 Riedell 297 boot and there is no such thing as a Roll Line Dance Plate 190 (size needed). Email from Roll Line. Anyway, I'm good, you all can debate it further if you like, I'm moving on. Thank you for all your suggestions!
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Essentially, all Roll Lines of a given geometry skate more or less the same, i.e. a Mistral feels like a Variant feels like an Energy. The key difference is the materials the base plate is made from and the amount of machining done to remove weight. The differences are fairly esoteric, and most skaters would not really notice. That should tell you something. Just because a plate is a "dance plate" or a "figure plate" doesn't mean you can't use it for whatever you want. It's about how the plate feels at the end of your leg, and whether it permits you do skate the way you want.
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Ultimate Dominator size 9 (6-7/8") on a 300mm Bont ![]() Size 11 (7") Snyder Royal NTS on a size 13 Oberhamer 351 ![]() Size 5 Sure Grip XK-4 prototype DA-45 (6.85") on a size 13 Riedell front flap 395 ![]() You get the idea. ![]()
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Corrected a mistake above. Larry O has been around here a while. I said Doc instead of Larry O. Doc, DVW and others have very reliable info as well as others on here. My stuff may not apply to your setup at all. But the others info will.
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This is so true! And many of them feel the same because they have the same kingpin angles. I have always found it odd, suspicious, some plate manufacturers avoid talking about or even listing their kingpin angles.
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OK, thanks and no worries. I learn from everybody
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I know your heart was set on buying a pair of 180 Dance Plates and mounting them to your Riedell 297 boots.
The only way I could see you running the 180 Dance plate would be to buy a pair of Berry Boots and mounting them to your 180 plates. Riedell Boots are huge and Edea Boots are smaller, but the smallest boots for your foot size is the Berry Boots. That's what I run. I run a short 160 Dance Plate with the smallest size 8 Berry Boots. It's the perfect setup and looks perfect and feels great and skates great! Good luck. And by the way all the negative comments, ![]() Larry O |
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In my opinion Roll Line plates are worth the money. They improve my stability and control.
I have finally determined my preferred plate length and mount position so I am in the process of switching over to Roll Line for my indoor skates. I'm still skating Snyder for outdoors. Because I already have it and am less concerned if it gets damaged. |
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But is it the right plate for David? David skates on a traditional Artistic Boot. I got a feeling many posters do not. David's skating on a Mistral and again, I think most people on this internet are not. David is skating on a special medium grip freestyle wheel, by Roll Line, most people are not at least it seems most people are not, who are responding to this post.
So, what David is worried about is spending thousands of dollars on a whim, in which he might not like the final result. Pretty Smart in my opinion. I think it would be wrong to push David into a 500 dollar mistake. Now, is there a different avenue which might give him the same result. Maybe a used pair of Synder Imperial skates? Take Care and thanks for the posting. I learned a lot from you and everybody else. Cheers! Larry O ![]() P.S. Does anybody know why Douglas Synder designed the Synder Imperial skate? To give you the feeling of doing "Loop" figures on ice. ![]() |
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