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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: NH
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The answer to your question, how long to learn....is, just drop your butt and get you’re legs out from under you, the lower your butt the better your ability to go fast while turning. Might I suggest, lots of hours on a bicycle, seat adjusted properly, just pedal and slowly build up the upper and lower leg muscles which will strengthen the tendons and ligaments of the knees, they will become supple, allowing you the flexibility needed to drop your butt and go fast, skating is rather stressful on the knees, even when they aren’t injured, bicycling is an excellent way to strengthen the legs with out stressing anything. Reinjuring your knees by overstressing them isn’t productive. |
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Join Date: Aug 2015
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Thanks for the advice. I already do a lot of biking. A history of Olympic Lifting and lots of squatting have given me moderately strong legs until a lower back injury sidelined that activity. Recently tested my squat and was able to do 245 for 8 reps which calculates out to a 305 single.
But... that really doesn't strengthen joints, tendons and ligaments, especially from lateral forces. I have been doing turncable type exercises, using bike inner tubes tied to an eye hook in a wall and doing skater-type side "pushes"/"extensions" (mimicking the stroke of a skate). I have found that the deeper I am in my squat and the closer my knee is to 90 degrees, there is much less pain in the knees. |
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Join Date: Oct 2017
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I think of far greater benefit for the speed skating technique are the parallel stroke drills that Coach Sooty has on his YT channel. These drills teach you to push sideways also in circular drills = they form a basis for your crossovers. Best and good luck. |
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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I was under the impression that cross pulls begin when your right leg is extended all the way out to the side and your left foot is under your left shoulder (at no point should you extend your left foot past your shoulder). You then pull your left foot to initiate the cross.
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on ice I came to know what is being called here the "scooter push" as something else. we call it "sculling". we work at keeping very low in the knees and hips and then push without ever lifting either skate from the ice. On straights it develops weight transfer and really makes the quads work hard. in the turns it help focus on driving the hip and keeping upper body/shoulders from charging the turn.
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And... drop the butt |
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Yes with practice you adjust and get better, but you will always be using your inherently weaker side to do most of the crossing and foot placement work.
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