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Old November 13th, 2019, 07:31 PM   #1
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Hello guys,

Do you wear protection when skating?

Well after many fails, I using knee, wrist and elbow pads.
I skate at rough surface, so ........
Anyone has a recommendation for protection for comfort wearing?

Thanks friendS!
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Old November 13th, 2019, 10:34 PM   #2
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Hi BMW325TI,

Sounds like you're Speed Skating outside ?? On what kind of Surface ? Concrete, Asphalt, ??

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Old November 14th, 2019, 12:13 AM   #3
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I go no where without a helmet

i find anything else restricts my movement
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Old November 14th, 2019, 05:10 AM   #4
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Hello guys,

Do you wear protection when skating?

Well after many fails, I using knee, wrist and elbow pads.
I skate at rough surface, so ........
Anyone has a recommendation for protection for comfort wearing?

Thanks friendS!
I wear helmet, wrist guards, and knee pads.

Helmets are easy.

Wrist guards aren't too hard. Most everything works. You just need to find the suitable balance of protection versus comfort/flexibility. My favourites re 187 "Derby" and Salomon Gel sliders. The latter are easy to acquire, highly protective, and comfortable. They are not easily compatible with wearing a watch. Salomon Gel Sliders are even more comfortable, adequately protective, and watch compatible but next to impossible to acquire. They've been out of manufacture for 15 years.

Good knee pads are a challenge if speed is your game. Most are nearly worthless in a crash on top of being restrictive. My goto pads are Lizard Skins Softcell Knee pads. They are light, non-restrictive, and never slide off. They are also out of manufacture but only about three years so you can still eBay them. Sizing is limited and a bit tricky. When in doubt, get the Small/Medium. If they aren't pretty tight when you first try them on, you got the wrong size.
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Old November 14th, 2019, 05:23 AM   #5
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g-form d30 knee are awesome, slim like a knee gasket but can take the first hit.
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Old November 14th, 2019, 03:09 PM   #6
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Indoors I wear knee pads, elbow pads and wrist guards, outside I add gloves and a helmet.

I'm pretty competent now but as I'm still learning and trying stuff I fall over. Most of the time these are pretty innocuous falls but a few times I've been very glad of the protection to prevent serious injury, particularly to knees.
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Old November 14th, 2019, 05:59 PM   #7
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Thanks guys for help!

Yes I skate (speed and urban skates) outside mostly at pedestrian surface. And sometimes bicycle lane.
Yup after left wrist in pieces, I am aware how painful and hard time to recover

Will a look for your recommendations.

Thanks mates!
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Old November 14th, 2019, 06:29 PM   #8
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I virtually never wear protective equipment.
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Old November 18th, 2019, 05:33 PM   #9
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They are not easily compatible with wearing a watch.
I use wrist guards and have finally realized that I can just strap my watch to the wrist guard. I put it on the left wrist guard, attaching it to the space between my thumb and forefinger, so the watch band touches my skin there. It looks a little weird, but I can read the watch, I can easily access the functions on it, and it doesn't really get in my way.

I also wear a helmet and knee pads when I skate. The knee pads are mostly because my knees swell if I kneel, though. If I kneel without them to tie a little kid's skate, one lace is enough to cause me problems.

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Old November 25th, 2019, 05:22 PM   #10
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A helmet and maybe some slider gloves. For certain outdoor conditions I wear sunglasses to protect from flying stones.
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Old November 30th, 2019, 03:18 PM   #11
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I always wear helmet and gloves with skid plates. I still fall once every 3 - 4 years.

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Old December 7th, 2019, 10:57 AM   #12
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I always wear helmet and gloves with skid plates. I still fall once every 3 - 4 years.

Normally I take a fall or 2 every year. So far in the last few years not due to my own errors, but debris and kids.
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Old December 21st, 2019, 08:27 AM   #13
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Were you wearing wrist guards at the time of your big accident?
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Old December 21st, 2019, 07:29 PM   #14
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Were you wearing wrist guards at the time of your big accident?
I was wearing Salomon Palm Sliders. They didn't help much in my high speed backwards fall. I've considered whether my wrist might have survived if I had been wearing the the beefier 187 Killer Derby pads. I'm sceptical though. It was such a violent fall with an unusual orientation. About a month later, a friend of mine fractured their wrist in a fall on the Friday Night Skate while wearing full split wrist guards. So, clearly, there are conditions where no pad will help. On the other hand, I have been wearing palm sliders for 20 years and this is the first time I've ever damaged my wrists.
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Old January 27th, 2020, 09:18 PM   #15
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After a few good sliders after falling at 25 mph on asphalt over the years, I've trained my brain and legs to remain upright no matter what. It hurts too much to fall without a bunch of pads all over the body.
Just a helmet does the trick, now. No protection other than the thin spandex or whatever. I really believe that a skater becomes better at judging the surface and imperfections in front of him/her if not wearing all sorts of gear intended to reduce skin abrasions/broken bones only if one falls. Otherwise, all that gear is useless. Yes, I can hear your objections all the way from here, already. Why not skate then without a helmet? Silly. My brain is my most valuable part. Everything else is secondary. And when my brain and eyes and proprioception are working well, I have zero worries. Just keep low, double-push and go faster. The more upright you skate, the more apt you are of falling, further. Remember the adage: the taller they stand, the harder they fall.
When you are skating in the proper speed-skating position (low to the ground!), your feet have far more of a range to move back and forth, side to side, to counteract the instant imbalance that you may find yourself in after hitting a stone, twig or pavement imperfection. Just the other day I was advancing rapidly on a tight curve on the paved path at +22mph. Just as I was crossing over, my inside skate hit a small stone or something that I somehow hadn't detected. Luckily I was in a very low sitting position in preparation and I had both hands behind my back. My inside skate started to slide outward, but because I was in a very low sitting position (picture an olympic ice short track skater in a turn) it was a simple matter to correct that skate's slide with the other now-crossed-over skate and carry through with nary a bobble. If I had been more upright, things would likely have been far different and my practice session would not have been as fruitful.
I haven't even come close to falling in quite a few years now. But rest assured, now that I've said this, the polythane/urethane gods may want to correct their oversights. I'll just have to get the antibiotic cream and saran wrap out again and deal with a little pain for a couple short days. Far better than dealing with all the ridiculous padding and protection gear. Also, while training with an indoor team years ago (somehow getting skates mixed up and sliding on me butt forever on the hardwood surface) learned me well on avoiding bony parts from impacting hard surfaces during a crash. If you're the kind that is apt to fall (we all are in the beginning of our careers), you had better learn how to automagically fall on your softer, sturdier parts, not on your hands, knees, elbows, or noggins.

Indoor tracks (especially varnished wood tracks) are awesome for team speed skate training, but even better for fall (crash) training.
Somehow a friend would go home with bloodied elbows and/or knees every once in a while, while I (having nearly the same amount of sliding faux pas) didn't have any physical evidence of crashing-out. He wondered why. I told him that I always made it a point to land on my side or directly on my butt and back, preferably my back because the impact would be absorbed by a very large area as compared to say an elbow or knee. Also, once I was on the surface, sliding, I'd make it an immediate point to keep all my appendages up in the air where they couldn't catch and rub and snag on the wood flooring. My faux pas were more like a controlled, sliding landing rather than an instantaneous, tumbling crash. Land on your arse or your back. NEVER try to brake a fall with your appendages (knees, hands, elbows, shoulders, head, etc). It will ALWAYS end badly.

Repair Tip: If you do find yourself with a nasty-assh bloody skin abrasion from your ankle to past your hip (many times!), clean it well (no alcohol!), apply a triple antibiotic cream, and wrap it in saran wrap. NO GAUZE or other traditional medical dressings... they will scar you and make dressing-changes VERY difficult. Saran Wrap (if you can still find the good stuff) will flex with your skin, and allow the wound to heal from the inside out without making scabs. Scabs suck! Glad Wrap or other stretchy food wrap will do in a pinch.
The interesting thing about a clear, stretchy, food-wrap dressing (one layer only) is that you can see the skin repairing itself from the inside, rather than having an inflexible scab layer forming. The view through the clear wrap looks gnarly, but it heals so much faster without as much scaring. Hospitals have been using thin silicone sheets for just this purpose, but those are very expensive. Saran Wrap is only a couple bucks and works just as well.
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Old January 29th, 2020, 07:12 PM   #16
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As possible I wear under layer; Lycra pant and stretchy jogging pant.

For training my reflex skills, I do a lot of fast turns and riding at imperfection surface.... So I have to focus more and not just brainless skating.

Never wear a helmet, but i should
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