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Ask DocSk8 (Expert Indoor Skate Building Advice) This forum is different then the other SkateLog forums in that it is not a discussion forum, but rather a place you can ask skate building expert Fred "DocSk8" Benjamin about building and repairing indoor speed, derby, and jamskate quad roller skates. Please start a new thread for each new question.

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Old January 30th, 2012, 12:30 AM   #21
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I can;t get the nuts off. I turn the nuts and the rest of the bolt turns too. I need a way to stop the bolt from moving so I can get the nut off and go from there.

The best thing to do is grind the head of the nut and the end of the bolt flush to remove any burrs... See if you can tighten the nut a bit further and make sure the burrs are gone.. Don't get to aggressive with the grinder or plastic things can melt.. Then a drop or 2 of Kroil, and the nut should come off...
If it does not we go to plan B..
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Old January 30th, 2012, 10:38 PM   #22
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Here's a few pics of the offending mounting hardware.

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And again

Sorry for the image sizes. I might just take these to work and let one of the techs deal with these stupid bolts/screws.... my favorite tech is a master at taking plates off that look damned near impossible to remove.... and he does it without damaging the plate OR the boot.
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Old January 30th, 2012, 11:26 PM   #23
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The bolts were snapped off at the nuts and the threads are buggered..

This is by far the quickest and dirtiest way to make sure the nut does not come off..It is also most effective as you have found out.. Oh the face of the nut on the plate is serrated... By grinding the nut and bolt down a bit to remove the bad threads they should loosen up and come off.. NOTE: I have used big vise grips to get a hold of the mushroom heads, lubed the bolt and turned the nuts off.. But they have to be BIG vise grips. The jaws need to be parallel at the diameter of the mushroom head..

Another option is to use a cut off wheel in a Dremel or similar and split the nuts. I have also use a hack saw (32 tooth blade) to do the same thing butthe boot is not easy to hold while sawing.
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Old January 30th, 2012, 11:33 PM   #24
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The bolts were snapped off at the nuts and the threads are buggered..

This is by far the quickest and dirtiest way to make sure the nut does not come off..It is also most effective as you have found out.. Oh the face of the nut on the plate is serrated... By grinding the nut and bolt down a bit to remove the bad threads they should loosen up and come off.. NOTE: I have used big vise grips to get a hold of the mushroom heads, lubed the bolt and turned the nuts off.. But they have to be BIG vise grips. The jaws need to be parallel at the diameter of the mushroom head..

Another option is to use a cut off wheel in a Dremel or similar and split the nuts. I have also use a hack saw (32 tooth blade) to do the same thing butthe boot is not easy to hold while sawing.
I'll take 'em to work tomorrow and let my favorite tech have a look at them. I have access to all sorts of implements of destruction at work and I've got quite the arsenal of tools in the house too.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll let you know if I'm successful or if I lose an eye
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Old January 30th, 2012, 11:51 PM   #25
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I'll take 'em to work tomorrow and let my favorite tech have a look at them. I have access to all sorts of implements of destruction at work and I've got quite the arsenal of tools in the house too.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll let you know if I'm successful or if I lose an eye
UH you will use safety glasses..... YES??
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Old January 31st, 2012, 01:56 AM   #26
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UH you will use safety glasses..... YES??
Uhhhhh.... of course! I work in a shop, I'd be insane not to have the following:

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Old January 31st, 2012, 05:19 AM   #27
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Uhhhhh.... of course! I work in a shop, I'd be insane not to have the following:

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So you will be successful and not lose an eye....
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Old January 31st, 2012, 07:26 PM   #28
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So you will be successful and not lose an eye....
After all my years in this profession, I assure you, I know better!

I've seen some guys get metal in the eye.... OUCH. One guy I worked with was missing half his iris in one eye from being careless.
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Old January 31st, 2012, 10:31 PM   #29
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sorry doc if i am stompin, but i do it different.
step 1 remove trucks,
step 2, air tool with 3/8 socket,
step 3 wedge flat head screwdriver between plate and boot and twist 90*
step 4, hit the air!
99% effective, and usually no damage to anything.
but if the screw is allready spinning in boot, i will wedge my cut offs in there and hold the head steady and then use the air
these dont work, i split the head, and smack it with a chisil
my 2 cents, but since i have the same tools as acid burn i figure i might have a trick doc doesnt, but only becouse doc isnt working in a car shop on skates.......but i bet he has tried thus said before......
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Below is a new to me technique I have not tried.. I don't use air tools on sk8s..

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sorry doc if i am stompin, but i do it different.
step 1 remove trucks,
step 2, air tool with 3/8 socket,

Uh Lasers and such use 7/16s if I recall correctly...

step 3 wedge flat head screwdriver between plate and boot and twist 90*
step 4, hit the air!
99% effective, and usually no damage to anything.
but if the screw is allready spinning in boot, i will wedge my cut offs

Cut offs?? Not familiar with that term..

in there and hold the head steady and then use the air
these dont work, i split the head, and smack it with a chisil
my 2 cents, but since i have the same tools as acid burn i figure i might have a trick doc doesnt, but only becouse doc isnt working in a car shop on skates.......but i bet he has tried thus said before......
Any port in a storm... as long as it works..
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Old February 1st, 2012, 12:14 AM   #31
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I left them at home today.... hahaha.
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Old February 1st, 2012, 02:37 AM   #32
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Below is a new to me technique I have not tried.. I don't use air tools on sk8s..

ive never had to do this on a laser mount......so use the right size socket
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cut offs, side cutters, snips, basicly i mean wire cutters.....

Any port in a storm... as long as it works..
i use any and all tools to get the job done.
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Old February 1st, 2012, 03:40 AM   #33
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i use any and all tools to get the job done.
Yup, same here. Whatever works, use.
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Old February 1st, 2012, 11:18 PM   #34
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Aaaaaaaaaaand we managed not to destroy the boots OR plates!



Boots!



Soles!



Plates sans trucks!

Oh, the boots have M 6 IM stamped on the bottom. I know 6 is the size, but what does the rest mean?

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