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Old February 24th, 2019, 10:00 PM   #1
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Default Break in new goots

Anyone have a good method of breaking in new boots? I bought a new rig from Simmons Racing.
I have warmed then to 200f several times in order to get them on. Once on they seem to be proper fit. But, as soon as cool I can't get them on again.

Need a ginormous boot horn.

Thanks for any help...

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Old February 25th, 2019, 03:58 AM   #2
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Anyone have a good method of breaking in new boots? I bought a new rig from Simmons Racing.
I have warmed then to 200f several times in order to get them on. Once on they seem to be proper fit. But, as soon as cool I can't get them on again.

Need a ginormous boot horn.

Thanks for any help...

ken
It sounds like they fit. It is just a matter of getting your foot in. That can be a bit tricky with stiff boots. This is what I used with custom Pinnacles when they were new.

1) Remove laces from all reinforced eyelets. Loosen what remains as much as you can.
2) Put the outside edge of your foot in first and then rotate your foot back to horizontal to bring the other side down. This make take two or three tries.
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Old February 25th, 2019, 02:09 PM   #3
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A friend we skate with regularly has recent full custom Simmons because of bone issues. He's been on them two years. He fully unlaces them to get his feet in. This is time consuming because he uses two laces per skate (lower section and upper section). For him it is well worth the extra effort.

Another friend has much earlier full custom Simmons short track ice. Because of "earlier" boot design he only needs to greatly loosen laces.

And now for the smartmouth section... have you tried heating your FEET to 200 F ??
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Old February 25th, 2019, 04:11 PM   #4
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Default Here is my idea

If I warm the boots to 200F I can get them on with out an issue.
So, I am going to warm them, wheels/frames and all before hand and put them in an insulated bag. Hopefully, they will stay a bit warm on my 10 minute trip to where I skate.
I may even look for a plug in bag that I can use in car.

Bit of a wee-wee as I age.

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Old February 25th, 2019, 04:37 PM   #5
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I'd counsel you to check with Dave about repeated re-heating the boots. I have no specific knowledge about the resin(s) Dave uses... but my guess (from a general history I have in working with expoxies) is that repeated heating will degrade the overall performance and longenvity of the fibre/epoxy system. Other components of the boot may not tolerate repeated heating either (upper pieces, adhesives, padding, etc).

You may get a short term benefit resulting in short-lived boots.


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Old February 25th, 2019, 04:38 PM   #6
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I'd be really scared of cooking any wheels!!!

EDIT: there are 3 things I'd be scared of about cooking wheels in an oven.
1) Urethane becoming harder and not rolling well or gripping as intended
2) Urethane wearing away quickly or breaking away in chunks
3) Poor/failing bond between urethane and plastic hub

4... 4 things!
poor/failing bond between outer urethane and inner band.
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Old February 25th, 2019, 05:14 PM   #7
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Turn your foot sideways when putting them into clod boots. It takes some getting used to with boots that have harder carbon fiber.
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warm them up, put them on, lean forwards like skating, and hold....for like 10 minutes or until they are room temperature. That should be the proper fit. That's what I did with my speed skates, and they are a really snug fit but never need padding. To put them on I have to loosen the laces a LOT all the way down (but I use long laces so I don't have to actually remove the laces). Give that a try. I got that tip from the folks at bont when I got my skates (custom) and it worked for me.
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Old February 25th, 2019, 09:30 PM   #9
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I'd be really scared of cooking any wheels!!!

EDIT: there are 3 things I'd be scared of about cooking wheels in an oven.
1) Urethane becoming harder and not rolling well or gripping as intended
2) Urethane wearing away quickly or breaking away in chunks
3) Poor/failing bond between urethane and plastic hub

4... 4 things!
poor/failing bond between outer urethane and inner band.
all in all....don't cook wheels. it also messes up any lubricants in the bearings...
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it also messes up any lubricants in the bearings
this is true for merely ordinary skaters.... but I'm so fast I need to use a special high temp oil used in jet turbines!!!
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this is true for merely ordinary skaters.... but I'm so fast I need to use a special high temp oil used in jet turbines!!!
hah, I use that on my racing bicycle. on my bont speed inline skates I have ceramic swiss bearings with a dry lubricant. They don't care about temp, but don't get them wet.
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