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Old August 2nd, 2017, 04:39 AM   #1
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Default Matter PROPEL New wheel hub.

In the process of coming out of the corner, the technology turning to the left is difficult to obtain with the hub design.

Need to present a foundation method.
We found a solution through experiments.
We discovered that it can not be solved with a hub.

I think the disk hub is rather good.



If the wheels of both feet are mounted differently like the photo, the user can feel the wheel in another way.
It is useful to assemble it in the same direction as much as possible.
Hoping for good results.

It is the choice of the user that consumers know the problem and purchase it.
If consumers purchase without knowing the reasons, the user can think that the manufacturer deceived.
When purchasing, the difference is whether the user "You know" or "does not know".

It will be "inconvenient truth" in some cases.
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Old August 2nd, 2017, 08:20 AM   #2
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my expectations by just looking at the construction, did not test the wheels.

Roll: will be good
Rebound: will be good
Flex: will be poor to average


But all in all, I think it is a smart marketing move. Curious how MPC will respond :-)
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Old August 2nd, 2017, 12:39 PM   #3
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Ability to use both sides of the wheel will not be good due to the direction of the hub. I like to rotate my wheels regularly, using both sides.

I'd be curious to the feel when the hubs are run backward.
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Old August 2nd, 2017, 01:49 PM   #4
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Ability to use both sides of the wheel will not be good due to the direction of the hub. I like to rotate my wheels regularly, using both sides.
It will increase the trend to have both training wheels and race wheels

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I'd be curious to the feel when the hubs are run backward.
My expectation is less roll when you use them inside-out. If the possitive effect is real, than you should also feel the negative effect.
The load on your spoke will translate in a reverse force on your bearing.
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Old August 2nd, 2017, 02:31 PM   #5
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It will increase the trend to have both training wheels and race wheels
Or decrease sales for people like me who wouldn't even consider buying a wheel they couldn't rotate.
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Old August 3rd, 2017, 01:48 PM   #6
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Or decrease sales for people like me who wouldn't even consider buying a wheel they couldn't rotate.
If I was the product manager, I would position this as the high end product

high-end = most expensive = e.g. single side wheels for same price as mid-end, but they last less long

mid-end = current high end wheels

low-end = training wheels.

Their will be a public that converts from their mid-end wheels to the high end wheels, so they would generate more turn-over (since these guys would need to buy more wheels).

It's a smart trick for this type of business. If I see here in Belgium how many people pay thousands of euros more for a racing bike that performs a little bit better ...
Investing in better training would be cheaper and more effective, yet they buy the expensive stuff.
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Old August 3rd, 2017, 02:10 PM   #7
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I suspect they will not yield any more performance. Remember, any energy you get back from a flexing object will be less than you put into it to make it flex in the first place.
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Old August 3rd, 2017, 10:33 PM   #8
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Wheels that are good for half a rotation... Get aboard the gravy train! Choo choo!!

Or maybe you should flip them during normal training, then when you race flip them the right way and knock half a second from your laptimes automatically. Magic.
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