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Old April 11th, 2018, 12:59 AM   #1
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I was going to post a Meme, but I'll just write it out. Syria is winning its' war against rebels. Then, supposedly, in a move that would anger the international community, and possibly provoke attacks against them, they use chemical weapons. Or did they?

This seems like a dumb move by Syria. So dumb, I can't help but wonder if they did it at all. Or if it even happened at all. Maybe this was the Rebels staging it for sympathy, military help.

Some say the Deep State wants this war to continue. I lean toward the notion that Obama wanted this war. Not sure why, but it seems that way.

To be honest, I really don't know what to make of all this. Just a jumble of confusion. Anyone following this? Anyone got a take on what is going on? Was/is it a coincidence the McCain was in Syria when 2 chemical attacks happened. Did McCain have something to do with this? And for what reason?
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could be another country fooling around with chems.
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There's nothing complicated about Syria, but no one expects you to understand.

In 14-15 Obama asked Congress for 500,000,000$ to arm, train and assist the rebels to unseat Assad, The US was activly helping the rebels and ISIS was also in the fight....on the same side as the US.
Trump was of course Tweeting that the US should leave Syria alone, it was none of our buisness, sound familiar? Trump was also, "then" working on behalf of Russia.
Today, well a year ago Trump dropped a bomb after alerting Vlad that he was going to, and now Trump is wagging the dog by pretending that he wants to help Syria, Trump, the Russian Spy being more exposed every day is pretending to want to help the Syrian Rebels, it's what Double Secret Agent's do, and we are living it in real life, and Trump is under Criminal Investigation for accepting Russian Money and Russian help in the Election.
And Trumps long time Lawyer is under Criminal Investigation for his own buisness activities (NY Taxicabs) as well as all his dealing with Trump, the illegal dealings

Trump is under investigation by everybody.

Emoluments.
Hookers.
Obstruction.
My favorite....RICO.
His Scottish and Irish golf courses are being investigated for money laundering with Russians.
His deal to open a Hotel in Moscow during the run up to the election.
His hotel in Panam, via the White House (The US Government), just asked the Panamanian Government to help Trumps Company take back it's right to run a Hotel, owned by a Panamanian.
Every day Trump creates more reasons to be investigated.
Need more popcorn

And in another Dufus Troll Thread, Dufus wonders if there ever was any Gas, but if there was it was McCain that was responsible.

Honestly, Dufus, shouldn't you be talking about Panda's after all, Carlson is, Fox Entertainment missed coverage of Trump's Confidant, Lawyer and Boogieman having his personal comunications seized, but really exposed the dangerous Panda, fact.

Pretending that Syria is a hoax, fiction, typical Trumptard.
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Well, that first go round, about a year ago, I kind of did not believe they did it. But, Trump said they were sure, so they shot some missiles.

This time around I am more skeptical, but in all of those UN sound bites, everyone seems sure Syria did it again.
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And it begins.

As President Trump prepares to order a missile attack on Syria, it’s worth asking ahead of time just what he intends to accomplish—what goals are feasible, at what levels of risk.

The attack itself is nearly a fait accompli. Wednesday morning, in response to a warning from a Russian official that Russia would shoot down any U.S. missiles fired at Syria, Trump tweeted, “Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and ‘smart!’ You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!”

Quite apart from the poor grammar and the juvenile giddiness about high-tech weapons and military force (an attitude that American military officers almost certainly find disturbing), it’s hard to imagine that Trump would put so much on the line, then pull back and thus look “weak.” It’s also a bit nerve-racking to wonder what Putin—no less obsessed with projecting a strongman image—might do as a follow-up if his air-defense weapons fail to blunt Trump’s attack.

In other words, the next few days could unleash a spiraling escalation of tension, not just among the myriad combatants in and around Syria but also between the United States and Russia.

This new round of violence was sparked by charges—which Russian and Syrian officials have unconvincingly denied—that Syrian helicopters attacked civilians with chemical weapons. One year ago, after a similar attack, Trump, then just a few months in office, ordered U.S. warships in the Mediterranean to fire 59 cruise missiles at a Syrian air base. The strike had no effect; the next day, Syrian planes attacked more civilians (albeit with conventional weapons) after taking off from the very same air base. Craters on runways can be filled pretty quickly.

Almost certainly then, this next attack will be bigger—or at least planned in such a way to be more consequential. What kind of attack might this be?

The first question that the generals are probably posing to Trump is what consequences he would like to see. Presumably, the main desire is simply to punish Assad for killing civilians with chemical weapons, in violation of international law and the most basic standards of decency.


One could ask why Trump is so agitated when dozens are killed by Assad’s poison gas yet so blasé when tens of thousands are killed by the Syrian regime’s bullets and bombs. But chemical weapons do cross a line; they’ve been outlawed for nearly a century, and it would be horrible if their use were suddenly normalized. Reports that Trump is recruiting France, Britain, other EU countries, and Saudi Arabia to join in on the attack—or in somehow holding Assad accountable—are encouraging, for political and humanitarian reasons.

But, again, what kind of attack is appropriate? One year ago, 59 cruise missiles had little effect on Assad’s behavior or on the support from his allies, principally Russia and Iran. It’s doubtful that 69 or 89 or 100 cruise missiles would have more potency.

One year ago, 59 cruise missiles had little effect on Assad’s behavior. It’s doubtful that 69 or 89 or 100 cruise missiles would have more potency.
There’s another problem with simply dropping bombs for their own sake. Most of Syria’s air bases and other military facilities now host Russian planes, combat vehicles, and personnel. Destroying Russian assets or killing Russian soldiers would have two dreadful effects. First, it would put the United States in direct military conflict with Russia, even though it’s not clear that Russians were complicit in Assad’s use of chemical weapons, except to help cover it up afterward. Second, it would further embroil the U.S. military in Syria, just days after Trump said he wanted to pull the U.S. military out of the country once they finished destroying the last remnants of ISIS, leaving other countries to clean up the rest of the mess.

Shortly before Trump fired 59 cruise missiles at a single air base one year ago, Russian officers were alerted so they could evacuate their planes and personnel. It’s likely that the Russians also alerted the Syrians, which may be why the attack had so little effect.

In other words, the Pentagon’s war planners are probably trying to develop options that inflict enough damage to stun Assad into altering his behavior—but not enough damage to draw us into a deeper and wider war. That’s a tight wire to walk.

Another approach to this sort of pressure campaign might be to damage or destroy some asset that Assad or his allies dearly value. Presumably, U.S., European, Israeli, and Sunni Arab intelligence agencies have been scanning intercepts and interrogating sources for just such a magic ring. There’s a long history of wartime spies and commanders searching for these rings. Rarely does such a thing exist; still more rarely is it found. If they think they’ve found one here, and if it’s a target of the attack, we’ll know in fairly short order.

One caution, which the generals have no doubt conveyed to Trump, is that airstrikes alone rarely accomplish much—certainly not one-off strikes against some specific, limited set of targets. Airstrikes are most effective when they’re followed up by assaults on the ground. Trump has made clear, with good reason, that he’s not ramping up troop levels for such assaults. Nor are the leaders of Britain, France, and Saudi Arabia keen to send in troops, regardless of how keen they might be to support missile strikes or even launch a few rounds themselves.

Trump blames the current situation on President Obama’s failure to follow through on his own threats to bomb Syria if Assad crossed the “red line” of using chemical weapons against his own people. According to a former official who saw the attack plan, which Obama nearly carried out, it would have been a fairly elaborate strike—destroying all of Syria’s airplanes and disabling, at least for a while, Assad’s military command control systems. A military officer who considered, and supported, the attack plan told his colleagues, “Maybe it’s a good message to say you can’t have an air force if you use chemical weapons.” At least one official thought there was a small chance that the strike could galvanize CIA-backed rebels in southern Syria to topple Assad’s regime. (Others disagreed.)

Obama ultimately backpedaled for two reasons. First, he thought, for political and legal reasons, that he couldn’t and shouldn’t do this alone—and he would have had to do that, after the British Parliament voted not to get involved and after the U.S. Congress declined to grant him the authority. Second, he thought that Russia and Iran, not wanting to lose their most valued ally and foothold in the region, would come to Assad’s rescue, repairing the damage, replacing the planes, and possibly escalating the conflict. At that point, Obama figured, he would have to back down or raise the stakes—i.e., to admit defeat or throw in tens of thousands of troops, neither of which he wanted to do.


Whatever the merits of Obama’s inaction, the same option is not open to Trump. He can’t launch an all-out attack on Syria’s air force without also attacking Russia, and he can’t do that without risking a very dangerous new war.

Finally, there is the politico-diplomatic question: To the extent the attack gives the U.S. and its allies any leverage, will they follow it up with pressure—or diplomatic overtures of any sort—to wind down the tension, end the war, move toward a political settlement? Trump did not do any of that—as far as we know, it wasn’t even part of the conversation—after his missile strike one year ago. If he fails to do so again this time, it will again be a bit of theatrics: sound and fury, signifying nothing.




So "now" Trump blames Obama for not Bombing Syria, yet in 14-15, at the time , Trump was screaming, stay away, not our problem, don't stirr up trouble, not to mention the fact that Obama asked Congress for 5 Hundred Million Dollars and got Turned Down, yet here we are, Trump is going to fake aggression, warn where and when the bombs will fall and continue being a Double non-Secrete Agent
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There's nothing complicated about Syria, but no one expects you to understand.

In 14-15 Obama asked Congress for 500,000,000$ to arm, train and assist the rebels to unseat Assad, The US was activly helping the rebels and ISIS was also in the fight....on the same side as the US.
Trump was of course Tweeting that the US should leave Syria alone, it was none of our buisness, sound familiar? Trump was also, "then" working on behalf of Russia.
Today, well a year ago Trump dropped a bomb after alerting Vlad that he was going to, and now Trump is wagging the dog by pretending that he wants to help Syria, Trump, the Russian Spy being more exposed every day is pretending to want to help the Syrian Rebels, it's what Double Secret Agent's do, and we are living it in real life, and Trump is under Criminal Investigation for accepting Russian Money and Russian help in the Election.
And Trumps long time Lawyer is under Criminal Investigation for his own buisness activities (NY Taxicabs) as well as all his dealing with Trump, the illegal dealings

Trump is under investigation by everybody.

Emoluments.
Hookers.
Obstruction.
My favorite....RICO.
His Scottish and Irish golf courses are being investigated for money laundering with Russians.
His deal to open a Hotel in Moscow during the run up to the election.
His hotel in Panam, via the White House (The US Government), just asked the Panamanian Government to help Trumps Company take back it's right to run a Hotel, owned by a Panamanian.
Every day Trump creates more reasons to be investigated.
Need more popcorn

And in another Dufus Troll Thread, Dufus wonders if there ever was any Gas, but if there was it was McCain that was responsible.

Honestly, Dufus, shouldn't you be talking about Panda's after all, Carlson is, Fox Entertainment missed coverage of Trump's Confidant, Lawyer and Boogieman having his personal comunications seized, but really exposed the dangerous Panda, fact.

Pretending that Syria is a hoax, fiction, typical Trumptard.
How horrible and disgusting it must be to be you. Turning every encounter into an opportunity for pointless hate and venom. You are a sad individual.
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Says a person that starts two or three racist or misogynistic threads a day, with the only intent being, spread mistrust and confuse.

And I'm the hater, all I do is factcheck your alternate fact "hate" filled propaganda.

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STILL can't wrap my head around this.

It makes no sense for Assad to do this. Reason this is false.
It makes sense for the Rebels to fake it. Reason it is false.
Dems/Libs want to pull Trump into Quagmire. Reason they want to believe it.
But military action brings both parties together. Reason dems would hate this.
BUT, it brings Russia and the US into conflict. Dems seem to want a continued cold war.

A continued cold war ostensibly is good for NWO as Russia is also against NWO.

Maybe that is the angle. The NWO is strong in Europe. Russia hates it, and Republicans are against it. AHHHH. Maybe that is the angle. Keep Russia and the US at odds with each other.

Yeah. That FINALLY makes sense. I mean, what is the big hubbub about Russian Meddling in the Election. The stupid Supreme Court opened the money gates to the world to influence US politics. Russia is nothing compared to that. Yeah. Keep two countries that hate NWO at odds with each other.

This theory may be true or not true, but at least it makes SENSE.
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Let's once again list some fact's.



Ha, NWO, a conspiricy theory, presented by Dufus, a conspiricy theory believer, can't you work contrails in?
Why not link to a picture you are trying to get skatelog to host for you, or to an authentic facebook article.


The New World Order or NWO is claimed to be an emerging clandestine totalitarian world government by various conspiracy theories.

The common theme in conspiracy theories about a New World Order is that a secretive power elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian world government—which will replace sovereign nation-states—and an all-encompassing propaganda whose ideology hails the establishment of the New World Order as the culmination of history's progress. Many influential historical and contemporary figures have therefore been purported to be part of a cabal that operates through many front organizations to orchestrate significant political and financial events, ranging from causing systemic crises to pushing through controversial policies, at both national and international levels, as steps in an ongoing plot to achieve world domination.

Before the early 1990s, New World Order conspiracism was limited to two American countercultures, primarily the militantly anti-government right and secondarily that part of fundamentalist Christianity concerned with the end-time emergence of the Antichrist.[8] Skeptics such as Michael Barkun and Chip Berlet observed that right-wing populist conspiracy theories about a New World Order had not only been embraced by many seekers of stigmatized knowledge but had seeped into popular culture, thereby inaugurating a period during the late 20th and early 21st centuries in the United States where people are actively preparing for apocalyptic millenarian scenarios. Those political scientists are concerned that mass hysteria over New World Order conspiracy theories could eventually have devastating effects on American political life, ranging from escalating lone-wolf terrorism to the rise to power of authoritarian ultranationalist demagogues.



Concerning Syria and it's overt use of Gas, on it's citizens....


Use of chemical weapons in the Syrian Civil War has been confirmed by the United Nations.[1] Deadly attacks during the war included the Ghouta attack in the suburbs of Damascus in August 2013 and the Khan al-Assal attack in the suburbs of Aleppo in March 2013. While no party took responsibility for the chemical attacks, the Syrian Ba'athist military was seen as main suspect, due to a large arsenal of such weapons. A U.N. fact-finding mission and a UNHRC Commission of Inquiry have simultaneously investigated the attacks. The U.N. mission found likely use of the nerve agent sarin in the case of Khan al-Assal (19 March 2013), Saraqib (29 April 2013), Ghouta (21 August 2013), Jobar (24 August 2013) and Ashrafiyat Sahnaya (25 August 2013). The UNHRC commission later confirmed the use of sarin in the Khan al-Asal, Saraqib and Ghouta attacks, but did not mention the Jobar and the Ashrafiyat Sahnaya attacks. The UNHRC commission also found that the sarin used in the Khan al-Asal attack bore "the same unique hallmarks" as the sarin used in the Ghouta attack and indicated that the perpetrators likely had access to chemicals from the Syrian Army's stockpile. Those attacks prompted the international community to pressure disarmament of the Syrian Armed Forces from chemical weapons, which was executed during 2014. Despite the disarmament process, dozens of incidents with suspected use of chemical weapons followed throughout Syria, mainly blamed on Syrian Ba'athist forces, as well as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and even on Syrian opposition forces and Turkish Armed Forces.

In August 2016, a report by the United Nations and the OPCW explicitly blamed the Syrian military of Bashar al-Assad for dropping chemical weapons (chlorine bombs) on the towns of Talmenes in April 2014 and Sarmin in March 2015 and ISIS for using sulfur mustard on the town of Marea in August 2015. Several other attacks have been alleged, reported and/or investigated.

In December 2016, at least 53 people were killed in an apparent nerve gas attack in IS-held villages near Uqairabat, marking the first major nerve gas attack since the 2013 accord. In April 2017, the Khan Shaykhun chemical attack drew international condemnation and provoked the first U.S. military action against the Syrian government-controlled airbase at Shayrat.






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STILL can't wrap my head around this.

It makes no sense for Assad to do this. Reason this is false.
It makes sense for the Rebels to fake it. Reason it is false.
Dems/Libs want to pull Trump into Quagmire. Reason they want to believe it.
But military action brings both parties together. Reason dems would hate this.
BUT, it brings Russia and the US into conflict. Dems seem to want a continued cold war.

A continued cold war ostensibly is good for NWO as Russia is also against NWO.

Maybe that is the angle. The NWO is strong in Europe. Russia hates it, and Republicans are against it. AHHHH. Maybe that is the angle. Keep Russia and the US at odds with each other.

Yeah. That FINALLY makes sense. I mean, what is the big hubbub about Russian Meddling in the Election. The stupid Supreme Court opened the money gates to the world to influence US politics. Russia is nothing compared to that. Yeah. Keep two countries that hate NWO at odds with each other.

This theory may be true or not true, but at least it makes SENSE.
Sooner or later Trump is going to find out who is pulling the strings.... too bad for them.
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ATM i dont believe Assad did it.
They are strongly denying it and poing the finger at UK special forces.
Buying into the ptopaganda only gives the US govt reason to strike .
More lives lost in the name of power.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-1...staged/9657314
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So, three days ago Trump announced he would bomb, three days for Vlad to move planes, trains and automobiles away, vlad has moved Planes and ordinance, now Trump bombs, this time the airfields are again empty, that's what a secret double agent, who isn's secret does.

My sincere sympathy for innocent victims of the hatred of these authoritarian despots, November 6th will be the beginning of the sane.
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So, three days ago Trump announced he would bomb, three days for Vlad to move planes, trains and automobiles away, vlad has moved Planes and ordinance, now Trump bombs, this time the airfields are again empty, that's what a secret double agent, who isn's secret does.

My sincere sympathy for innocent victims of the hatred of these authoritarian despots, November 6th will be the beginning of the sane.
its not like its something new ursle .
This has been going on for decades through many front men/presidents,not just in syria . remmember iraq?
just another baby in the dam.
Throw the baby in the water but only film the rescue of that baby and your an instant hero.
Too bad nobody saw the throwing of the baby in the first place .AKA UK involvement in the chemical attack.
And thus why they want to disarm citizens to avoid anther 1 of these.
https://www.history.com/topics/french-revolution

listen to this ,not like its news
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ATM i dont believe Assad did it.
Agree. Aside from ursle, which is a special case, no one is that stupid.

But you could probably line up a dozen moron groups that would stage it, or, if they could, actually DO it, and make it look like Assad. Too many wild cards in play.
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Agree. Aside from ursle, which is a special case, no one is that stupid.

But you could probably line up a dozen moron groups that would stage it, or, if they could, actually DO it, and make it look like Assad. Too many wild cards in play.
who wants turkey and why?
And now its time for me to distrust donald trump
I think israel wouldnt mind a piece of syria and turkey and who better to do the dirty work than the USA elites?
https://www.google.com.au/maps/searc...77372,5z?dcr=0
Thats a map Now you can wonder what minerals or other resaon for wanting control of syria
also trade sanctions?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Syria
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who wants turkey and why?
And now its time for me to distrust donald trump
I think israel wouldnt mind a piece of syria and turkey and who better to do the dirty work than the USA elites?
https://www.google.com.au/maps/searc...77372,5z?dcr=0
Thats a map Now you can wonder what minerals or other resaon for wanting control of syria
also trade sanctions?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Syria
I think it is silly to mistrust Trump. One, he don't give a ****. He cares about the US. Doesn't give a f*ck about other places. Doesn't want to be the worlds cop. You mention Israel. Typically they would not be on my list. Though some splinter group could be involved. But.........

But, I have something MUCH better. I think you will agree. It is obvious that Islam is invading Europe with Refugees. Keeping Syria a mess keeps CREATING more refugees. So the theory is simple. Soros needs more refugees to invade Europe. Now the people who were attacked HAVE chlorine gas. They used it against the Kurds. So how easy would it be for Soros to pay them to kill a few of their own, get a fat wad of cash, AND get their enemy, Assad, in trouble with the US and her allies.

I think you will agree, this ^ theory has some pretty good bite to it.
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I think it is silly to mistrust Trump. One, he don't give a ****. He cares about the US. Doesn't give a f*ck about other places. Doesn't want to be the worlds cop. You mention Israel. Typically they would not be on my list. Though some splinter group could be involved. But.........

But, I have something MUCH better. I think you will agree. It is obvious that Islam is invading Europe with Refugees. Keeping Syria a mess keeps CREATING more refugees. So the theory is simple. Soros needs more refugees to invade Europe. Now the people who were attacked HAVE chlorine gas. They used it against the Kurds. So how easy would it be for Soros to pay them to kill a few of their own, get a fat wad of cash, AND get their enemy, Assad, in trouble with the US and her allies.

I think you will agree, this ^ theory has some pretty good bite to it.
like you said bad to distrust trump right.
trump dont give a sh1t about anyone other than america right.??
Then why does he bother to intervene in syrias business??????
If the long shot and its a pretty long shot, Assad is getting off on killing his own people to flush out rebels.Lets say Trump wants to risk a nuclear war to be a hero in syria ,when you yourself said he dont give a sh!t.
Doesnt make sense at all .
Then we have trumps mouth pieces spreading rumours they have concrete proof assad is behind the killing of his own people.
You yourself just stated it might be a muslim takeover refugee making exercise.
So why are trump and his people blaming assad and telling russia to get out of the way .
We know full well israeli banks have american politics by the balls.
we also know now that the whole eastern western block war between the serbs and croates was stirred up by israel.What makes israel so immune to starting it all over again????
Just have another look at the gaza strip sagas involving israel against palestine when we know full well it was a war over the petrodollar, another federal reserve interest. Funny how it all arched right up after yassa arrafat annouced he would accept Gold, and any other currency for oil.Not a lot different to what happened to saddam hussien when he annouced the very same thing.
Perfect crime is to make it look like somebodey else is causing the trouble then step in obliterate and take control.
And that is what is happening,its not your bussiness usa, if assad is killing his own people be gratefull that hes not killing other countrys people.
Now the people up top running your country are wastefull, just like ours .your country was built on slavery,just like ours.
Now that slavery has gone they depend on invading putting oil lines in as they go like in iraq {the gulf war}.
Now africa has a real problem with raids and village burning rapes mass genocide.I dont see trump or the UK stepping in .those 2 may even be organising arms dumps to keep the carnage going.
So no way known trump is saving syrian civillian lives out of the goodness of his own heart.
.I dont by it, either trump is being is mislead or hes in on it.
Either way its not ok. mislead =underqualified ,in on it = corrupt.
Like what hes done for america seemingly but dont entice nuclear war with russia if you care about american lives .1 nuclear bomb = many dead americans
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like you said bad to distrust trump right.

I'm not inclined to. But everyone can make their own call.

trump dont give a sh1t about anyone other than america right.??
Then why does he bother to intervene in syrias business??????

A clear answer was given for this. No, he does not want into their war. By his reasoning, he and allies would attack, to hurt, not to engage in war, with anyone who employs chemical or biological weapons. This is what was said. I'm not going to try and sell this, just reporting.

If the long shot and its a pretty long shot, Assad is getting off on killing his own people to flush out rebels.Lets say

I don't buy that. It is possible, but I think we are being played.

Trump wants to risk a nuclear war to be a hero in syria ,when you yourself said he dont give a sh!t.
Doesnt make sense at all .
Then we have trumps mouth pieces spreading rumours they have concrete proof assad is behind the killing of his own people.

I have since gotten more info. Apparently, we did NOT have solid info from the attack LAST YEAR. Gen Mattis has admitted this.

You yourself just stated it might be a muslim takeover refugee making exercise.

Possibly.

So why are trump and his people blaming assad and telling russia to get out of the way .

Deep State. A creation of Obama. Liberal NWO a holes. We are seeing the Deep State a holes being exposed in the FBI and DOJ. But what of the CIA and other intelligence gathering agencies that feed Trump the info he uses to make decisions? I believe the Deep State wants to push Trump to war. Trump doesn't want it. He want jobs and to fix the economy. The clue is the Dems. They are for it, though they still criticize Trump.

We know full well israeli banks have american politics by the balls.
we also know now that the whole eastern western block war between the serbs and croates was stirred up by israel.What makes israel so immune to starting it all over again????
Just have another look at the gaza strip sagas involving israel against palestine when we know full well it was a war over the petrodollar, another federal reserve interest. Funny how it all arched right up after yassa arrafat annouced he would accept Gold, and any other currency for oil.Not a lot different to what happened to saddam hussien when he annouced the very same thing.
Perfect crime is to make it look like somebodey else is causing the trouble then step in obliterate and take control.
And that is what is happening,its not your bussiness usa, if assad is killing his own people be gratefull that hes not killing other countrys people.
Now the people up top running your country are wastefull, just like ours .your country was built on slavery,just like ours.
Now that slavery has gone they depend on invading putting oil lines in as they go like in iraq {the gulf war}.
Now africa has a real problem with raids and village burning rapes mass genocide.I dont see trump or the UK stepping in .those 2 may even be organising arms dumps to keep the carnage going.
So no way known trump is saving syrian civillian lives out of the goodness of his own heart.
.I dont by it, either trump is being is mislead or hes in on it.

I believe he is being misled. As a private citizen, he has been against this stuff. From a money standpoint, businessman, remember, he does not like wasting money getting into conflicts the bring no return. YES this attack is different. But what they did was attack facilities capable of making chemicals. Generally, he'd stay out. Mattis is driving him toward action.

Either way its not ok. mislead =underqualified ,in on it = corrupt.
Like what hes done for america seemingly but dont entice nuclear war with russia if you care about american lives .1 nuclear bomb = many dead americans
I think the chemical attack is a fraud. Russia likely knows this. They made a BIG noise to try and warn the US off. But Deep State is giving Trump bad info. Then when Russia realized the US and allies were going to believe the lie, all they could do is get their people and ships out of the way. Russia is not going to do a big escalation. For what? Syria? Russia would not go to war if we nuked Syria out of existence. No. Russia knows better than we do. They know the truth. But despite us being wrong, they won't go to war over it.
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