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Old February 24th, 2018, 05:13 PM   #61
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All politicians add like that.
Its called confusing the masses....
no... not all politicians.

what really scares me is that way way too many US voters DO add that way and convince themselves they are OK and everyone else is wrong. And then pick fun of and start fights with folks who do not buy into their dysfunction.
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Old February 24th, 2018, 08:15 PM   #62
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I'm rather hoping for #8, Pence scares the bejesus out of me....
Up until very recently I've thought Pence to be 'reasonable enough' (well, aside from being willing to be the VP to Trump's POTUS) but his recent on-camera comment that the Russian meddling had no effect on the election has made me change my mind. While it is possible that his comment may have meant to convey the concept that either "No votes that were cast were changed after the fact by the Russians" or "No on-the-fly vote tallies were affected"... it sure seems as if the comment's intended meaning was that the Russian influence campaign did not affect voter feelings, hence voting, in any way. If this last was his meaning... he has lost all credibility.
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Old February 27th, 2018, 10:04 AM   #63
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no... not all politicians.

what really scares me is that way way too many US voters DO add that way and convince themselves they are OK and everyone else is wrong. And then pick fun of and start fights with folks who do not buy into their dysfunction.
why bother bringing up the only president that could add 2 and 2.
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Old October 18th, 2018, 05:19 PM   #64
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Here we are, approaching a watershed moment, the 2018 midterm elections.

I think we can all agree that the Mueller team has been silent regarding anything that has not been publicly charged/prosecuted to date. I believe that once the midterm election is completed Mueller/Rosenstein will unveil the findings and all hell will break loose regardless of what they are.

I strongly suspect that Trump will be revealed to be a huge (current) tax cheat very beholding to Russian & Saudi 'under the table' cash to keep his empire afloat. I also believe it will be shown that Trump actively colluded with Russia and other foreign governments. (Trump's ignorance of what constitutes collusion is no defense.)

If the House and Senate both flip to solid Democrat control I think Trump will quit the Presidency the day before the new Representatives and Senators get sworn in.


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Here is an interesting office pool

"When will Trump not be President?"

pick a day/month/year

It does not matter HOW he leaves office, but if you guess right you double or triple the winnings. The pick closest to actual day wins.

He could: (in order I think most likely)
1) quit (I like my old life... who knew this job was so much work?)
2) be impeached
3) be removed by action via article 4 of the 25th amendment
4) be killed in an accident
5) be assassinated
6) get beamed up by space aliens and never seen on earth again
7) other
8) be voted out and transfer power to next president-elect at regular inauguration
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Old October 18th, 2018, 05:52 PM   #65
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Here is an interesting office pool

"When will Trump not be President?"

pick a day/month/year

It does not matter HOW he leaves office, but if you guess right you double or triple the winnings. The pick closest to actual day wins.

He could: (in order I think most likely)
1) quit (I like my old life... who knew this job was so much work?)
2) be impeached
3) be removed by action via article 4 of the 25th amendment
4) be killed in an accident
5) be assassinated
6) get beamed up by space aliens and never seen on earth again
7) other
8) be voted out and transfer power to next president-elect at regular inauguration
Actually, in reality, Trump has yet to be president, more then half the official positions needed to effectively run the government are unfilled and the ones Trump filled are filled with incompetent people that actively attempt to bring chaos to their position, all the allies and trading partners the US had have been rudely insulted, and the trade treaty's ignored, yet Americas enemy's are Trumps best friends, currently, Trump is again lying about the facts concerning the brutal murder of a journalist in Turkey by, yep, Saudi Arabia, he will never be president.
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Old October 18th, 2018, 08:26 PM   #66
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Actually, in reality, Trump has yet to be president, more then half the official positions needed to effectively run the government are unfilled and the ones Trump filled are filled with incompetent people that actively attempt to bring chaos to their position...
To a certain extent I have to agree here.

Sometimes in discussions with others I characterize Trump's actions as those of an out of contol child in a room of other children who are building bridges, houses, etc with building blocks. Trump cannot build anything politically from scratch on his own and so spends all his time running around smashing down all the other children's creations and telling them how bad their things are and how dumb they are. By and large, Trump's actions as President amount to him issuing large numbers of executive orders 'smashing stuff' and then others in his administration are left to scurry around cleaning up the messes he has caused.

I reserve judgment on leaving posts unfilled. In certain instances I am an advocate for radical change and I cannot help but wonder if this approach, while awkward and disruptive right now, might be helpful future years to reduce govt bloating.
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Old October 19th, 2018, 03:10 PM   #67
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...(many positions Trump HAS filled) are filled with incompetent people that actively attempt to bring chaos to their position....
this part I wholeheartedly agree with. Many (way too many!) have been clearly shown to be incompetent and worse, unethical and self dealing, openly acting as shills for the business interests of the sectors they are supposed to be watching over for the best interests of ALL THE PEOPLE of the U.S.
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this part I wholeheartedly agree with. Many (way too many!) have been clearly shown to be incompetent and worse, unethical and self dealing, openly acting as shills for the business interests of the sectors they are supposed to be watching over for the best interests of ALL THE PEOPLE of the U.S.
Well that just fits fine, only filling half the positions with nitwits, half as many as bozo, saving the taxpayers 50% or so of government waste in those departments. Good Job Trump... I knew there was a silver lining in there somewhere...
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Of course there are, only communists would sink their own ship to take power. 3 new wood product mills starting up in the area. Lots of new jobs everywhere, whn dims take power, that all goes away or they throw temper tantrums and riot... notice all the rioting has mysteriously disappeeared... how about that..
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This thread was started a year and a half ago assuming Trump would only be in office for a short period of time. Then came the great economy, the decreasing wars, the better trade deals, prison reform, and all the other stuff both sides want but only some will acknowledge.

Now it's - 3 more months, and we'll get Drumpf for sure this time!

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This thread was started a year and a half ago assuming Trump would only be in office for a short period of time. Then came the great economy, the decreasing wars, the better trade deals, prison reform, and all the other stuff both sides want but only some will acknowledge.

Now it's - 3 more months, and we'll get Drumpf for sure this time!

Trump 2020
Is it any wonder they chose a jackass as a mascot? Democrats are unstable, double-minded traitors to America.
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Is it any wonder they chose a jackass as a mascot? Democrats are unstable, double-minded traitors to America.
Communists posing as socialists. Yep, Trump 2020 MAGA!
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Old January 4th, 2019, 12:35 PM   #74
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This thread was started a year and a half ago assuming Trump would only be in office for a short period of time. Then came the great economy, the decreasing wars, the better trade deals, prison reform, and all the other stuff both sides want but only some will acknowledge.

Now it's - 3 more months, and we'll get Drumpf for sure this time!

Trump 2020
Trump wasn't elected by the majority of Americans.
Open your eyes, the great economy, handed off by Obama is starting to crumble, the trade war started by Trump is slowing the economy, it's all about the money and Trump, a failure at every buisness he was ever involved in is breaking the American Economy.
Perhaps you didn't notice that the American people decisively voted for change, change from having a Russian gangster in the White House.



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Is it any wonder they chose a jackass as a mascot? Democrats are unstable, double-minded traitors to America.
Democrats are unstable.....as the Democrats will, once again, bring the US out of a financial nosedive.
Democrats are Traitors...as Trump backs all Russia's worldwide policy's, does Russia's bidding, and makes enemies with all the US actual trading partners, right...



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Communists posing as socialists. Yep, Trump 2020 MAGA!
Wow, Russia, the Comunist country that got Trump elected, that colluded with the NRA to funnel 30 million dollars to the Trump campaign, Russia, that is carrying on a cyber war with the US are the Comunist's, and all the Comunist Americans that support Trump and Russia are the Comunist's.

You should probably go back to just posting Troll pictures, when you type....you lie, or you are confused, or you type lies because you're confused, not knowing the truth is confusing you
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Old January 5th, 2019, 01:56 PM   #75
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The Fed did their meddling, and before Christmas. What idiots. So the market took a hit. And then those pesky job numbers came in. People still working, wages going up. Yeah, the Fed couldn't quite manipulate that.
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Old January 6th, 2019, 08:30 PM   #76
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Trump wasn't elected by the majority of Americans.
Open your eyes, the great economy, handed off by Obama is starting to crumble, the trade war started by Trump is slowing the economy, it's all about the money and Trump, a failure at every buisness he was ever involved in is breaking the American Economy.
Perhaps you didn't notice that the American people decisively voted for change, change from having a Russian gangster in the White House.
I think you meant to say it wasn't Americans that voted for Hillary


0bama handed off the "those jobs are never coming back", it would take a magic wand to get the economy over 3%, yada yada.

Trump is 100% patriotic American and has lived his very public life that way.

KAGA Trump 2020!
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Yada, Yada, yada.





Isn't it amazing how the population map and the voting map match up, nevertheless, Trump lost the popular vote, Most Americans don't support the pussy grabbing, Tax Dodging, Bone Spur Faking, EPA denying, Health Care Destroying....Lying...Russian Spy.




Trump is as patriotic as his source of funding....Russia.
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Whatever the truth is, flip it around. Hilary and Obama have ties to Russia. Not Trump. That will never change.

And where did that $150 billion Obama gave Iran go? Not for the good of the people.
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Old January 7th, 2019, 12:10 PM   #79
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Whatever the truth is, flip it around. Hilary and Obama have ties to Russia. Not Trump. That will never change.

And where did that $150 billion Obama gave Iran go? Not for the good of the people.
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Another Factually Challenged rufus post.

Trumps only, ONLY...form of funding is the Russians, Trump has no one B U T....Russia.

That..... will never change.

Try to keep up rufus..
The 150 Billion Number is incorrect.

Facts Matter.

The 2015 agreement freed up Iranian assets that had been frozen under sanctions. Called the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, the deal included Iran and the United States, China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom and the European Union.

The agreement only affected sanctions imposed to punish Iran for its nuclear program. Iran has other assets that remain frozen.

Some conservatives have put the amount released after lifted sanctions as high as $150 billion, which is the highest of estimates we have seen. Another estimate from Iranís Central Bank topped out at about $29 billion in readily available funds, with another $45 billion tied up in Chinese investment projects and the foreign assets of the Iranís Oil Ministry.

After talking with officials at Iranís Central Bank, Nader Habibi, professor of economics of the Middle East at Brandeis University, believes the actual total is between $25 billion and $50 billion.



Trump also claimed obama also gave Iran another 1.8Billion, let's fact check that...

The $1.8 billion
The Congressional Research Service, the nonpartisan analytic arm of Congress, reviewed this cash transfer in a 2018 report. It gave a total of $1.7 billion.

That was the amount that U.S. and Iranian negotiators settled on to resolve an arms contract between the United States and Iran that predated the Iranian revolution in 1979. Iran had paid for military equipment, and it was never delivered.

As of 1990, there were $400 million in that account. Negotiators agreed that accrued interest would add $1.3 billion to the amount, which is a lot of money ó but 25 years is a long time for interest to build up the balance.

The United States sent the money to Iran in euros, Swiss francs and other currencies. Trump embellished when he mentioned barrels and boxes. Reports at the time said the money was packed and loaded onto pallets, similar to how other bulk goods are shipped.

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Go ahead and impeach Trump.. lol
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