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Ask DocSk8 (Expert Indoor Skate Building Advice) This forum is different then the other SkateLog forums in that it is not a discussion forum, but rather a place you can ask skate building expert Fred "DocSk8" Benjamin about building and repairing indoor speed, derby, and jamskate quad roller skates. Please start a new thread for each new question.

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Old October 11th, 2013, 06:17 PM   #1
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I originally posted this in the Quad forum, but after getting a chance to read more, it fits better here.

Hi,

I was hoping someone could help me out. I skated a lot when I was a kid, up to about 18 or so. So it had been 20 years since I skated. In March, I randomly took my 4 year old daughter skating. The next thing you know, I am being recruited into a newly forming roller derby league. Before I started that, though, I bought a lower end pair of Riedell R3's which were so tight around the widest part of my foot, I had to send them back. I ended up with a pair of Rock GT-50's made by Sure Grip, which were also the lower end. I had assured myself that I would not be putting a lot of money into this, and that I would not be purchasing pads and a helmet.

Of course that is not how it worked out and I am addicted. More to the workout I get out of it and the fact that I love anything on wheels. So I noticed that the ball of my right foot (the one below the big toe on the inside of the foot) starts to hurt as soon as I start skating hard. So I end up having to completely lift my right leg and skate on my left leg as much as possible.

I tried adding an additional insole on top of the original. That helped a little bit for a while and then it got worse, so I removed the extra insole. I tried gel inserts on just that spot, and it did not work. I then tried waxed laces, because I kept having to tighten the boots. This helped a little bit, but then my foot was hurting in places it had never hurt before, because I was lacing too tight.

I am convinced that my skates are holding me back. I was looking on LowPriceSkates.com at some options on the higher end of the spectrum. I am willing to spend about $500.00. The problem is that I have no idea if better skates will really help. I am having an extremely difficult time choosing a skate. I do want better turning action as well, I would love for my skates to be more responsive. I looked at Jackson, Riedell & Bonts. I have eliminated Bonts, because if I don't like them, I am stuck with them as they are custom. Those new Riedell blue streaks are beautiful, but they may not be wide enough. ??? Not sure....

I know someone here must be an expert on skates and fitting. I would really appreciate some help, and I Thank You all in advance for anything that could help me. I live in Missouri, near St. Louis, so there are NO skate shops. I would love to try things on first, but that is not an option.

Sincerely,
Colleen

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Old October 11th, 2013, 07:49 PM   #2
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I originally posted this in the Quad forum, but after getting a chance to read more, it fits better here.

Hi,

I was hoping someone could help me out. I skated a lot when I was a kid, up to about 18 or so. So it had been 20 years since I skated. In March, I randomly took my 4 year old daughter skating. The next thing you know, I am being recruited into a newly forming roller derby league. Before I started that, though, I bought a lower end pair of Riedell R3's which were so tight around the widest part of my foot, I had to send them back. I ended up with a pair of Rock GT-50's made by Sure Grip, which were also the lower end. I had assured myself that I would not be putting a lot of money into this, and that I would not be purchasing pads and a helmet.



Of course that is not how it worked out and I am addicted. More to the workout I get out of it and the fact that I love anything on wheels.

Ha wait till ya catch SEDS.

So I noticed that the ball of my right foot (the one below the big toe on the inside of the foot) starts to hurt as soon as I start skating hard. So I end up having to completely lift my right leg and skate on my left leg as much as possible. I tried adding an additional insole on top of the original. That helped a little bit for a while and then it got worse, so I removed the extra insole. I tried gel inserts on just that spot, and it did not work. I then tried waxed laces, because I kept having to tighten the boots. This helped a little bit, but then my foot was hurting in places it had never hurt before, because I was lacing too tight.

Have you tried loosening the suspension a bit or putting SG Super Cushions on the plates?? That may help.

I am convinced that my skates are holding me back. I was looking on LowPriceSkates.com at some options on the higher end of the spectrum. I am willing to spend about $500.00. The problem is that I have no idea if better skates will really help. I am having an extremely difficult time choosing a skate. I do want better turning action as well, I would love for my skates to be more responsive. I looked at Jackson, Riedell & Bonts. I have eliminated Bonts, because if I don't like them, I am stuck with them as they are custom. Those new Riedell blue streaks are beautiful, but they may not be wide enough. ??? Not sure....

I know someone here must be an expert on skates and fitting.

There are rumors I'm pretty good at it.

I would really appreciate some help, and I Thank You all in advance for anything that could help me. I live in Missouri, near St. Louis, so there are NO skate shops. I would love to try things on first, but that is not an option.

Sincerely,
Colleen

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Old October 11th, 2013, 08:45 PM   #3
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Hi, Thanks for the reply. I replied to your pm. Also, I have done adjustments, but I am pretty sure I have adjusted to the best of my ability and another skater has helped who has experience adjusting them a bit.

I have not tried any other cushions, as I am not wanting to dump any more $$$$ in these skates. Once I get new ones, they will become outdoor skates.

Just for info, even if I never bout with our team, I will skate until I can no longer do so. It has really helped me focus my training off skates. I am an exercise fiend. I go to the gym 6-7 days a week, cycle when I can, swim when I can, now I skate 3 times a week. So no matter what, I want something that I can derby in, and just do freaky fast laps in.

Someone told me skates will never be comfortable. I don't believe them. There has to be a way.......
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Old October 11th, 2013, 09:31 PM   #4
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Hi, Thanks for the reply. I replied to your pm.

I'll got to that in a bit.

Also, I have done adjustments, but I am pretty sure I have adjusted to the best of my ability and another skater has helped who has experience adjusting them a bit.

I have not tried any other cushions, as I am not wanting to dump any more $$$$ in these skates. Once I get new ones, they will become outdoor skates.

Cushions are not bank breakers and may help the feet, a lot. Even if you take them outside they will hurt if you leave them as is.

Just for info, even if I never bout with our team, I will skate until I can no longer do so. It has really helped me focus my training off skates. I am an exercise fiend. I go to the gym 6-7 days a week, cycle when I can, swim when I can, now I skate 3 times a week. So no matter what, I want something that I can derby in, and just do freaky fast laps in.

Skate more, other stuff less....


Someone told me skates will never be comfortable. I don't believe them.

Good for you. They lied...or were speaking from very limited personal experience with poorly fitted / set up sk8s. I have more than a few pair of my own. NONE are uncomfortable. Some more comfy than others sure, but none are uncomfortable.

There has to be a way.......

And you are pointed in the right direction..
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Old October 11th, 2013, 09:42 PM   #5
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I got whatever cushions came with the skates, but I am very mechanically inclined, so I could probably change them. The only thing is, I don't know what I have, or where I should be.
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Old October 11th, 2013, 09:53 PM   #6
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I emailed not Pm'd. Sorry for the confusion.
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Old October 11th, 2013, 11:06 PM   #7
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I emailed not Pm'd. Sorry for the confusion.
No prob, what ever you did, I got it.
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G'day Doc, how are you mate?
If you don't mind me butting in I thought it might be worth pulling out the insole and checkin that the mounting hardware isn't raised.
It wouldn't be the first time!
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G'day Doc, how are you mate?
If you don't mind me butting in I thought it might be worth pulling out the insole and checkin that the mounting hardware isn't raised.
It wouldn't be the first time!
G'day to you Nick. I was beginning to think you had fallen off the face of the earth....or at least gone walkabout.

It's a good point. In fact, I was rolling a pair of 911s last night and found a knot in the stitching right under the ball of my foot. That will get surgery today.


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Not fallen off yet Doc, just been a busy boy.
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