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Old March 31st, 2015, 02:48 AM   #1
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Hey everyone,
I'm on a worldwide hunt for the classic MPC Black Track wheels. No... Not the turbos...... Old style Black Tracks. with the old MPC hub.

Let me know if any of you guys have a new set(s) or if you know where I can find them.

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Old March 31st, 2015, 02:04 PM   #2
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Good luck with that.

Supposedly, the Black Magic are the same compound but with a 3.5% stiffer core.

I used to use the X-Firm Black Track (the translucent maroon wheels) on a slippery floor and they were awesome. The X-Firm Black Magic wheels were much too slippery.
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Old April 3rd, 2015, 05:25 AM   #3
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Good luck with that.

Supposedly, the Black Magic are the same compound but with a 3.5% stiffer core.

I used to use the X-Firm Black Track (the translucent maroon wheels) on a slippery floor and they were awesome. The X-Firm Black Magic wheels were much too slippery.
Hey, yeah... That's what I'm wanting them for. All of our floors are garbage over here. Was hoping to locate a few sets.
Not company seems happy or capable to reproduce anything like it
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Old April 3rd, 2015, 03:54 PM   #4
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If you do find someplace/someone that has multiple sets, let me know! I tried to find some last year and I had to give up. Those wheels are absolute magic on certain surfaces and nothing else comes close.
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Old November 17th, 2015, 01:34 PM   #5
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Hi,

similar issue here - on our floor basically only the old Atom Fly (yellow or the blue Joey edition) works and one mate has Black Track Turbo and she's running on rails.

As the BT Turbo are nowhere to be found (same for the Fly's), is there ANY alternative to those? Anyone compared the other Atom indoor wheels (sub7, whip or spyder traction)? I am getting somewhat desparate as the MPC "training" wheels (the cheaper BM type wheels) that I bought to replace the pld Fly's dont work at all for me...

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Old November 17th, 2015, 01:50 PM   #6
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Some people over here are having good luck with the Roll'X Xbird. The floor we skate is very slick (it's a rented multipurpose room which isn't coated for skating and always has dust), so the 83/85A isn't out of line. I've personally only used the wheels once, and I was leading the session, so I didn't get to really put them through their paces.

My thoughts after limited use:
-The urethane really grips, and it rolls decently.
-I'm not convinced the hubs are stiff enough. There are a lot of spokes, and when you roll it almost feels like you can feel every one because the circle part of the hub that meets the urethane is so thin. This may just be my personal bias from skating hubs which are stiffer for more roll.
-The profile isn't quite what I would prefer. At the very end of the stride the wheel didn't offer the resistance I was expecting. This would probably not take long to get use to, but it may also be a problem at higher speeds. Or it may not.
-The wheels felt light. This was mostly noticeable at the moment of lifting them off the ground, so the profile may have amplified the feeling. They are also single band, so they will be a little lighter.
-The pricing looks pretty decent.

In short I'd say it's worth a shot if you need the grip in an indoor wheel. I don't think they will roll as well on a sticky floor, and I suspect they will flex at higher speeds. That is conjecture, though.
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Old November 17th, 2015, 03:43 PM   #7
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Cool! Thanks for the advise!
Didnt know RollX so far; they are in France so will need my wife to do the website translation for me :-)
Our training place is a roll-hockey field made of some PVC/plastic tiles (usually very dusted) and that's inside a bike rink where we can also use the infield (next to the banked bike track), that has some plastic/pvc coating as well. So speed is limited anyway, grip is what counts. Will try those RollX - if they dont work, the financial impact is not THAT big

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Old December 2nd, 2015, 08:06 PM   #8
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Some people over here are having good luck with the Roll'X Xbird. The floor we skate is very slick (it's a rented multipurpose room which isn't coated for skating and always has dust), so the 83/85A isn't out of line. I've personally only used the wheels once, and I was leading the session, so I didn't get to really put them through their paces.

My thoughts after limited use:
-The urethane really grips, and it rolls decently.
-I'm not convinced the hubs are stiff enough. There are a lot of spokes, and when you roll it almost feels like you can feel every one because the circle part of the hub that meets the urethane is so thin. This may just be my personal bias from skating hubs which are stiffer for more roll.
-The profile isn't quite what I would prefer. At the very end of the stride the wheel didn't offer the resistance I was expecting. This would probably not take long to get use to, but it may also be a problem at higher speeds. Or it may not.
-The wheels felt light. This was mostly noticeable at the moment of lifting them off the ground, so the profile may have amplified the feeling. They are also single band, so they will be a little lighter.
-The pricing looks pretty decent.

In short I'd say it's worth a shot if you need the grip in an indoor wheel. I don't think they will roll as well on a sticky floor, and I suspect they will flex at higher speeds. That is conjecture, though.
Have received my neon-yellow xbirds (Firm) yesterday and tried in practice. They are perfect for our floor (very good grip), I didn't feel the spokes and found the profile not too different from my MPC BM profile (visually). The wheels are light indeed...

THX again for the recommendation, I think these wheels should be on the radar for those looking for a BlackTrack alternative....

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Old December 2nd, 2015, 08:50 PM   #9
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A friend of mine is a speed coach in NC (USA) and he's also sells Roll-X wheels state-side:

http://skatelifellc.com/

The X-Bird are relatively cheap, as wheels go:

$13.75 each for 100mm
$15.00 each for 110mm
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