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Old February 23rd, 2020, 07:48 AM   #1
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Default What is the origin of "Haters" in skating?

People who have been Roller skating even 50 years say it's always been that way, no different today. Except rexers are cool now!

When I started 5 years ago I could not understand why people say "skate don't hate". But if you get immersed in this subculture you realize it's there.

I still don't completely understand it. It does not seem to be much about race, but rather jealousy and competition, insincerity?

Some people hate on you for your skating style, some seem to hate on you just because you are doing better than them. Which is just about the time strangers start videoing you.

If you rink skate on adult night it can be almost like High School, worse actually, we are all over Youtube and Facebook with videos.

I don't hear about this in other sports so much, but I think skating is the only sport that is also kind of a performing art too. For the hot and talented, it's a narcissist dream.

So that's my thoughts, why do you think we have haters?
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Old February 24th, 2020, 08:01 AM   #2
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I generally find that the haters are coming from an inability to accept that there is more than one style/type of skating (theirs). I say, embrace all forms and learn wherever and whatever you can to improve your own skills.
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Old February 24th, 2020, 08:05 AM   #3
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Oh, and their "intelligent" argument usually consists of "That looks stupid"
At least with the likes of Mort, Ursle, Ferocious and others, their statements are backed up with their own experiences of the situation, not just outrageous statements with no support.
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Old February 24th, 2020, 10:00 AM   #4
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LOL. Good question. Snobbery, clique-ishness. Used to see a lot of 595/Reactor, Pro Line, Advantage snobs. I was just mentioning a guy I had on a 45 who got pushed into a Pro Line I think it was, because some old time skater told him it was better. Shiny and more expensive. Better? Such a slippery slope. It depends on the skater.

But, you are pretty right. It is ugly out there. Jam skaters, art, rhythm, speed, derby, dance. I dunno why. I wonder if anyone will come up with a good theory.

I can trace the derby developement I saw in LA. At first, they were all nice and friendly, took advice, asked questioned. Then after a couple of years, they were "it" and you weren't. LOL
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LOL. Good question. Snobbery, clique-ishness. Used to see a lot of 595/Reactor, Pro Line, Advantage snobs. I was just mentioning a guy I had on a 45 who got pushed into a Pro Line I think it was, because some old time skater told him it was better. Shiny and more expensive. Better? Such a slippery slope. It depends on the skater.

But, you are pretty right. It is ugly out there. Jam skaters, art, rhythm, speed, derby, dance. I dunno why. I wonder if anyone will come up with a good theory.

I can trace the derby developement I saw in LA. At first, they were all nice and friendly, took advice, asked questioned. Then after a couple of years, they were "it" and you weren't. LOL
Got to look past the ignorance that just because it costs a ton, it makes you a better skater. Tuning and talent makes your moves better, picking out acceptable gear to get the job done doesn't have to cost thousands.
Testing and trying out different setups "tunes" your preference. Don't follow the cow path.
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Old February 24th, 2020, 12:03 PM   #6
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A skater who is enthusiastic about the sport(all encompassing here from sliders to speed skaters) will appreciate any level of skill on any equipment. It's about growth as a personal measure and learning from each other. Teaching new people what options there are vs "this is the best because I said so" is the goal.. or should be.

Does gear make a difference? Absolutely, without a doubt it has an effect on the situation. Does it transform a skaters skill from nothing to epic? Hell no lol. The skater does that by finding themselves.

I'm more of a "show me what you can do with them ****** skates". I love watching people be fast and agile on something like a gtx500, or gt50, or Carrera or other 75 to 200$ skate.

Cheaper skates, for some(if not nearly all) people make a better skater, Why? Well they have to practice harder and be analytical about what they're doing because they get no help from elite skate gear. Thus they learn to fine tune their stride to make a skate grip, transition, and perform well. So when they do finally get on good gears you better watch the #$%@ out son. Lol

Sooo many of the best skaters I know had the worst pieces of crap when they were young, for years. The only advantage their gear gave them is it was theirs, and it performed the same way every time just about, where rentals are always different.


Seen many a skaters at rinks that have obviously more money (most expensive gear) get dumped on by a guy with a stock Fame skate.
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Got to look past the ignorance that just because it costs a ton, it makes you a better skater. Tuning and talent makes your moves better, picking out acceptable gear to get the job done doesn't have to cost thousands.
Testing and trying out different setups "tunes" your preference. Don't follow the cow path.
So true! I have really "nice" skates and the difference in performance from a plain decent skate is tiny in my opinion, mostly weight. Yes, they are stronger, but I'm not doing any serious jumps, so it's wasted on me. I have noticed over the years some (almost all) of the best skaters have old ugly beat up skates!
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