Rigid insert for mounting sneakers to quads?

Joey · December 25th, 2018, 05:08 AM

Anybody know where to purchase a stiff material shaped like a footbed to use inside of a sneaker to facilitate mounting to a quad plate/frame? Or even what kind of material to use and I can cut it myself with a jigsaw to the shape of the footbed.

I had a pair of "sneaker skates" many years ago and recall it had such a stiff material to back up the heads of the bolts inside the shoes. Or any other suggestions that would be helpful.

Thanks

ursle · December 25th, 2018, 04:04 PM

This thread is about anal drilling.

http://skatelogforum.com/forums/show...+fiber&page=12

It's about drilling your boots and it's anal.

On the last page (I skipped to it) is a pictur3 of a carbon fiber plate on the bottom of a bont carbon fiber boot, that plate is exactly what you want.

Dillo, passed away, sadly, but a search of his threads will...like the thread I posted, show various ways to use carbon plates in or out of the boot to secure the skate plate.

dvw · December 25th, 2018, 04:32 PM

Get a sheet of 3/16" or 1/4" UHMW and cut to shape. Cuts easily, is rigid enough to line a sneaker, but will give a little bit. Countersink the hardware inside or use tee nuts.

https://www.mcmaster.com/uhmw-polyethylene-sheets

Dragonplate laminated carbon fiber is also good stuff, but is really stiff and a little overkill.

jotson · December 25th, 2018, 05:25 PM

DVW - thanks for the suggestion. I always wanted to check out the dragonplate based on Richard's posts, but the UHMW is a whole lot cheaper. Amazon prime has 12"x12"x1/4" for $14. If i remember correctly, the dragonplate would have been around $60. I also assume the polyethylene would cut and shape easier.

Merry Christmas everyone!

Joey · December 26th, 2018, 01:42 AM

I KNEW i could count on you guys!! Thanks!

Happy Holidays and keep it safe.

jotson · December 26th, 2018, 10:30 PM

Just another thought on the UHMW -Dillo (Richard) was always over the top when it comes to minimizing weight on the skates. The UHMW looks like it is quite a bit heavier than the carbon. Like anything else, there are cost tradeoffs, and the really good stuff is exponentially more expensive than the OK stuff. Maybe start with the UHMW, and when you hit the sweet spot with plates/boots, future upgrade to the carbon? Cheers and good luck!

dvw · December 27th, 2018, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotson

The UHMW looks like it is quite a bit heavier than the carbon.

In the size and amount you'd need for a shoe liner plate, it would be irrelevant.

wyodinosaur · December 27th, 2018, 05:03 AM

Has anyone tried these:
https://rollerskatin.ca/products/par...g-shoes-detail

It looks like they would only fit certain plates though.

rufusprime99 · December 27th, 2018, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyodinosaur

Has anyone tried these:
https://rollerskatin.ca/products/par...g-shoes-detail

It looks like they would only fit certain plates though.

Wow. That looks interesting. Though I would say the back could be a couple mm wider over all, and a couple extra mm wider on the back side of the toe piece.

Only certain plates?? Oh, I see it now. Your width is fixed front and back.

jotson · December 27th, 2018, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvw

In the size and amount you'd need for a shoe liner plate, it would be irrelevant.

Words you would have never heard from Dillo

BigFoot · December 27th, 2018, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotson

Words you would have never heard from Dillo

Truth. No weight savings was too small.

Back on topic - I once used 4mm thick aluminum sheet for this, but heavier than UHMW and prolly harder to form.

Joey, can you report back on how it went and how it worked? Thx.

December 25th, 2018, 05:08 AM	#1
Joey Powerslide Hardcore EVO Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Orleans, Louisiana USA Posts: 502	Rigid insert for mounting sneakers to quads? Anybody know where to purchase a stiff material shaped like a footbed to use inside of a sneaker to facilitate mounting to a quad plate/frame? Or even what kind of material to use and I can cut it myself with a jigsaw to the shape of the footbed. I had a pair of "sneaker skates" many years ago and recall it had such a stiff material to back up the heads of the bolts inside the shoes. Or any other suggestions that would be helpful. Thanks __________________ 2 Inline Skates, 1 Quad Skates, 4 Longboards, 3 Bicycles, 0 Cars

December 25th, 2018, 04:32 PM	#3
dvw Secretary of Skate Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hendersonville, TN Posts: 4,393	Get a sheet of 3/16" or 1/4" UHMW and cut to shape. Cuts easily, is rigid enough to line a sneaker, but will give a little bit. Countersink the hardware inside or use tee nuts. https://www.mcmaster.com/uhmw-polyethylene-sheets Dragonplate laminated carbon fiber is also good stuff, but is really stiff and a little overkill. __________________ Find some roller derby girls. Don't try to romance them! That don't end well. okie 10/12/2011 Royals FTW! When only the shiny will do... Doc Sk8 05/19/2012

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December 25th, 2018, 04:04 PM	#2
ursle Street Skater Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NH Posts: 3,144	This thread is about anal drilling. http://skatelogforum.com/forums/show...+fiber&page=12 It's about drilling your boots and it's anal. On the last page (I skipped to it) is a pictur3 of a carbon fiber plate on the bottom of a bont carbon fiber boot, that plate is exactly what you want. Dillo, passed away, sadly, but a search of his threads will...like the thread I posted, show various ways to use carbon plates in or out of the boot to secure the skate plate.

December 25th, 2018, 05:25 PM	#4
jotson Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 607	DVW - thanks for the suggestion. I always wanted to check out the dragonplate based on Richard's posts, but the UHMW is a whole lot cheaper. Amazon prime has 12"x12"x1/4" for $14. If i remember correctly, the dragonplate would have been around $60. I also assume the polyethylene would cut and shape easier. Merry Christmas everyone!

December 26th, 2018, 10:30 PM	#6
jotson Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 607	Just another thought on the UHMW -Dillo (Richard) was always over the top when it comes to minimizing weight on the skates. The UHMW looks like it is quite a bit heavier than the carbon. Like anything else, there are cost tradeoffs, and the really good stuff is exponentially more expensive than the OK stuff. Maybe start with the UHMW, and when you hit the sweet spot with plates/boots, future upgrade to the carbon? Cheers and good luck!

December 27th, 2018, 05:03 AM	#8
wyodinosaur Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Cheyenne, Wyoming USA Posts: 29	Has anyone tried these: https://rollerskatin.ca/products/par...g-shoes-detail It looks like they would only fit certain plates though.