I feel Another SEDS moment coming on

bookwook · July 25th, 2019, 09:35 AM

I've been looking at the new Bont Zeus plate and thinking why not?Can somebody tell me its rubbish so therefore saving me money...money i can spend on other SEDS related purchases.

jackbkwikn · July 25th, 2019, 11:21 AM

Just buy a boen...

zebra1922 · July 25th, 2019, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bookwook

I've been looking at the new Bont Zeus plate and thinking why not?Can somebody tell me its rubbish so therefore saving me money...money i can spend on other SEDS related purchases.

You know at this stage an opinion isn’t going to change your mind, get it bought!

fierocious1 · July 25th, 2019, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bookwook

I've been looking at the new Bont Zeus plate and thinking why not?Can somebody tell me its rubbish so therefore saving me money...money i can spend on other SEDS related purchases.

Wheels, wheels......

bookwook · July 26th, 2019, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jackbkwikn

Just buy a boen...

OG Boens for sure,been trying to get some of them for over 12 months,New Boens..dunno ,would they be better than the WIPs that i roll?They look a lot like the set of Starmasters i've got just machined out in the middle.Any advice would be appreciated.

bookwook · July 26th, 2019, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by fierocious1

Wheels, wheels......

Yeh ,but Aussie Scott is way to busy,maybe i should hit up HeBeGeBe

fierocious1 · July 26th, 2019, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bookwook

Yeh ,but Aussie Scott is way to busy,maybe i should hit up HeBeGeBe

Well, I wouldn't let that slow me down. Shamans work well as long as you don' get the reds, the blues are too soft. So whites and green work very well for me.

Mort · July 26th, 2019, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jackbkwikn

Just buy a HeBeGB plate..

There, fixed it. F those boens.

jackbkwikn · July 27th, 2019, 05:59 AM

YEAH that's an idea mort.
I skated his skates last year and must say they felt the same as
My Boen set up.
My problem with them is this.If I got a set I would need his big wheels to go with it.And then I most likely would not want to go back to my other setups.
And I have many.....

leshomes · July 27th, 2019, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jackbkwikn

YEAH that's an idea mort.
I skated his skates last year and must say they felt the same as
My Boen set up.
My problem with them is this.If I got a set I would need his big wheels to go with it.And then I most likely would not want to go back to my other setups.
And I have many.....

I understand, haven’t been on anything else since I went 78mm.

bookwook · July 27th, 2019, 01:30 PM

Well I don't want the Zeus plate anymore...now i want HeBeGebe plates and wheels maybe some Shamans and i still want some boens.I have one word for you lot ...Enablers

jackbkwikn · July 27th, 2019, 01:40 PM

Forget about the shamans .They wear to fast.
What size boen you want....

fierocious1 · July 27th, 2019, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jackbkwikn

Forget about the shamans .They wear to fast.
What size boen you want....

Well its like this, when I want a custom wheel that has pigment deleted it costs extra.... I want what I want, but ain't gonna pay extra for an already expensive wheel. I get almost 2 years of life out of Shamans with my setup, abusing them. The total costs over time runs about the same for me. But saying that, wear is not the same for everyone.
I look at all costs and it just goes above what I want to pay. Shamans have been very consistent for wear and grip.
Unlike older Anabolix high wear rates(8 sessions then they are slick) or Monzas(2 sessions and slick).
Now, Hebegb and Scott have some very nice wheels, no doubt, I just cannot justify the expense.

Shamans, white and green are the best wheels to be had for consistency and lower cost. I even buy them used and they work perfectly. Not so for the red Shamans, something about the chemical mix leaves them with less grip.

jackbkwikn · July 28th, 2019, 05:49 AM

Your logic is flawed I'm afraid.First how can wheels that wear in a few sessions be cheaper than a better ,virtually non wearing wheel.
Ok they cost twice as much.
But your buying a new set every year.Or at best regrooving .
And also natural colored wheels don't cost extra..I only buy natural or black colored wheels.As my local rink uses bleach on the floor and it discolors colored wheels to a muddy brown color.

bookwook · July 28th, 2019, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jackbkwikn

Forget about the shamans .They wear to fast.
What size boen you want....

Good to know about the shamans.I've been trying to get my hands on a 165 boen special or speed

fierocious1 · July 28th, 2019, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jackbkwikn

Your logic is flawed I'm afraid.First how can wheels that wear in a few sessions be cheaper than a better ,virtually non wearing wheel.
Ok they cost twice as much.
But your buying a new set every year.Or at best regrooving .
And also natural colored wheels don't cost extra..I only buy natural or black colored wheels.As my local rink uses bleach on the floor and it discolors colored wheels to a muddy brown color.

Like I said, depends on the skater. Most skaters don't wear wheels out near as fast as I do. A new set a Shamans would last the 3 to 4 years. So no big deal. My wife had some cheaper wheels than Shamans and they were over 10 years old with nice grooves intact. Ive seen many sets of old Shamans used that looked almost new and were years old. Those I like to buy and do a cement break in. I sometimes get nice Shamans for around $70, then break them in. They are usually glased from age and not being applied to the correct floor(wrong duro for floor).
Like I said, depends on the skater. If you are not hard on wheels, I see no logical reason to buy high dollar wheels other than fashion or following the crowd. Ive skated Scott's long ago, nothing wrong with them, they worked just fine.
The wheels that I wore out in a few sessions were before Scott's were widely available. The Monzas were a gift that didn't hold up very well.

Btw, Last time I texted Scott, yes, no pigment wheels cost more, about $30 to $40 more on custom wheel sets.

No bleach here, wheels stay mostly white. I want to run the hardest wheels that will grip the floor, pigment is a contaminant that takes away grip.

JorisKB · July 28th, 2019, 09:29 PM

Zeus can't go bigger than 72mm wheels. No point.
Just get new boens if you want light nts plates with clips. They don't take big wheels either, but they have been good for decades under "boiani star" name, so we know they works and you can have steel, titanium or 7075 kingpins for less money.

HeBeGB · July 29th, 2019, 09:06 AM

Besides maybe Ferocious' setup, I don't think any other plate besides mine can run a 78mm wheel properly. And at this stage I am only doing 148mm, 158mm and 168mm axel spreads.

fierocious1 · July 29th, 2019, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by HeBeGB

Besides maybe Ferocious' setup, I don't think any other plate besides mine can run a 78mm wheel. And at this stage I am only doing 148mm, 158mm and 168mm axel spreads.

I have 73mm that fit nice and my centers are 200mm, nice and comfy. Can easily handle bigger wheels.

JorisKB · July 29th, 2019, 06:57 PM

Most Roll Line plates and Avangers fit big wheels up to 80mm at least (probably 85)

July 25th, 2019, 09:35 AM	#1
bookwook Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: aus Posts: 20	I feel Another SEDS moment coming on I've been looking at the new Bont Zeus plate and thinking why not?Can somebody tell me its rubbish so therefore saving me money...money i can spend on other SEDS related purchases.

July 25th, 2019, 11:21 AM	#2
jackbkwikn ALTAMURA Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 1,282	Just buy a boen... __________________ ALTAMURA'S

July 27th, 2019, 05:59 AM	#9
jackbkwikn ALTAMURA Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 1,282	YEAH that's an idea mort. I skated his skates last year and must say they felt the same as My Boen set up. My problem with them is this.If I got a set I would need his big wheels to go with it.And then I most likely would not want to go back to my other setups. And I have many..... __________________ ALTAMURA'S

July 27th, 2019, 01:40 PM	#12
jackbkwikn ALTAMURA Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 1,282	Forget about the shamans .They wear to fast. What size boen you want.... __________________ ALTAMURA'S

July 28th, 2019, 05:49 AM	#14
jackbkwikn ALTAMURA Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 1,282	Your logic is flawed I'm afraid.First how can wheels that wear in a few sessions be cheaper than a better ,virtually non wearing wheel. Ok they cost twice as much. But your buying a new set every year.Or at best regrooving . And also natural colored wheels don't cost extra..I only buy natural or black colored wheels.As my local rink uses bleach on the floor and it discolors colored wheels to a muddy brown color. __________________ ALTAMURA'S

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July 27th, 2019, 01:30 PM	#11
bookwook Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: aus Posts: 20	Well I don't want the Zeus plate anymore...now i want HeBeGebe plates and wheels maybe some Shamans and i still want some boens.I have one word for you lot ...Enablers

July 28th, 2019, 09:29 PM	#17
JorisKB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Paris, France Posts: 232	Zeus can't go bigger than 72mm wheels. No point. Just get new boens if you want light nts plates with clips. They don't take big wheels either, but they have been good for decades under "boiani star" name, so we know they works and you can have steel, titanium or 7075 kingpins for less money.

July 29th, 2019, 09:06 AM	#18
HeBeGB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: BrisVegas, Australia Posts: 173	Besides maybe Ferocious' setup, I don't think any other plate besides mine can run a 78mm wheel properly. And at this stage I am only doing 148mm, 158mm and 168mm axel spreads. __________________ I'm not fast, but I make other people faster Last edited by HeBeGB; July 29th, 2019 at 11:52 AM. Reason: further info

July 29th, 2019, 06:57 PM	#20
JorisKB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Paris, France Posts: 232	Most Roll Line plates and Avangers fit big wheels up to 80mm at least (probably 85)

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