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Old January 10th, 2013, 04:26 AM   #21
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If you weren't using the ski poles uphill it would be a huge waste of time. I'd rather do pull ups, any day..

I thought about using ski poles once when I was a kid, and picked up a stick to see how it would be. Freakng sucked on flats. It would equate to a Olympic level athlete trying to gain strength lifting a women's running weight.

For all that hassle I'd look for a used total gym. I love those things..
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Old January 10th, 2013, 05:56 AM   #22
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Tell me what's wrong with recumbents before I finish saving up enough money to buy one.
Telling your parents your gay is probably the worst thing about them.

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Old January 10th, 2013, 12:15 PM   #23
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Tell me what's wrong with recumbents before I finish saving up enough money to buy one.
Honestly, I was messing around. Personally, I'm all for folks
doing WHATEVER floats their boat to get out and exercise.

That being said, I admit to being a purist when it comes to skating.
I don't skate for the workout; that's the byproduct. Anything that interferes
with that is viewed with derision. Ski poles are not welcome in most social
skating settings. As I've stated, I really have no beef with folks doing
whatever makes them happy, but I believe in engaging purely in the
activity you're doing and not trying to add stuff to it to make it more.
If you're skating hard enough and doing it well, you use your arms plenty.
If you're training for skiing, by all means as stated above.

There is nothing wrong with recumbents. If you want to get one, have at it
and enjoy yourself regardless of others feelings on it. There are those who
see them as kind of a step away from the gusto of cycling and they're
generally not so welcome on serious group rides. Yeah, they're kinda
goofy looking and I don't believe I've ever seen one mountain biking,
though I have no doubt someone somewhere has done it. For me
personally, recumbents represent a resignation from the aggression
and gung ho attitude that's at the heart of cycling. That's just me and
deep down inside I really don't spend too much time (zero) thinking
about it aside from an occasional razzing on the internet. I've heard
folks say they can't ride a regular bike because of their backs or weight
or some such thing and that's fine, whatever gets you out of the house
is great.

edit: I got logged out before I posted this and in the meantime I watched
the vid. Funny and pretty exemplary of the common sentiment in the
cycling community. I forgot to mention the climbing thing.

Jim, why the recumbent instead of a real road bike?
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Old January 10th, 2013, 01:52 PM   #24
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Jim, why the recumbent instead of a real road bike?
I was only messing with ya, I have no intention of buying a recumbent or any other bike. I just defend them against their haters who would like to see them banned, same as I do with everybody else's haters.
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Old January 10th, 2013, 01:54 PM   #25
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I use poles when I ski, I don't when I skate.
Sorry, but I have little to no respect for anyone skating with poles unless they are truly training for cross country skiing, IE: using the skates that look like a short ski with just two wheels.
If you really want that workout in the winter...go skiing!!!!!!
So where in your post do you explain why you feel that I gave the OP bad advice?
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Old January 10th, 2013, 01:59 PM   #26
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If you weren't using the ski poles uphill it would be a huge waste of time. I'd rather do pull ups, any day..

I thought about using ski poles once when I was a kid, and picked up a stick to see how it would be. Freakng sucked on flats. It would equate to a Olympic level athlete trying to gain strength lifting a women's running weight.
So you picked up a stick once when you were a kid and that makes you an authority on the subject?

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For all that hassle I'd look for a used total gym. I love those things..
Re-read the original post. That was the one I was responding to.
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Old January 10th, 2013, 02:54 PM   #27
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If you have small children...how about pushing a stroller while you skate? That would work your upper body.
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Old January 10th, 2013, 03:53 PM   #28
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I was only messing with ya....
Ha! Touché well played, well played indeed, sir.
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Old January 10th, 2013, 04:05 PM   #29
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If you have small children...how about pushing a stroller while you skate? That would work your upper body.
SUP!

It's a bit cold now, but come summertime you could do Stand Up Paddle-boarding (SUP).

It's a great core workout that including the arms, chest and legs. You can often find local classes for $50 for 1.5 hrs.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 03:04 AM   #30
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So where in your post do you explain why you feel that I gave the OP bad advice?
Didn't say it was "bad advice" He could get an upper body workout that way. Just stated how I (and many others) feel about people skating with poles if not training for cross country skiing.
You said he should just put on his skates and get some poles, not the same as training.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 04:42 AM   #31
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So you picked up a stick once when you were a kid and that makes you an authority on the subject?
Lol not saying I am. Though I cannot possibly see doing anything useful with ski poles on skates. At best they could be used uphill or as a goofing off scenerio.

Maybe useful as a weapon to smash someone up with for running you off the road with their car....


If your skating hard enough (like speedy said) you'll get good core work done. Slaloms , spins, or even hard turns and crossovers.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 09:51 PM   #32
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Pull-ups, chin-ups and push-ups. Needed, one chin-up bar, a floor and 30 minutes a day. It's only difficult until one gets use to it. Next planks!
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Old January 15th, 2013, 02:49 AM   #33
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Streamline is spot on!
I've totally given up on weights, and the thought of skating with ski poles makes me cringe. I would literally kill myself with one of those things.....

Pull ups are an amazing work out. So are pushups. I'm ate up with both. Between them, and the aggressive bowl skating I do, the only reason I need the gym is for the shower and the jacuzzi. (and the pullup bar, and the inclement weather days.....lol)

During the past two days of bad weather, I've done pullups two days in a row for a total of just shy of 200. When I skate the bowls, I worked in a pushup routine at the end of one of my runs. I usually do somewhere between 100 and 200 daily.

Getting your body moving thru space, be it pullups, pushups, situps, wallups, skating, leaping, squatting is the best type of exercise do in fact that they workout the abductor muscles too. Incorporating these excruciatingly boring and challenging (pullups) routines into a fun setting is the key to sticking with it. I'm currently looking for a very tall ladder somewhere. Might even start rock climbing.
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Old January 15th, 2013, 04:00 AM   #34
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Not to nit pick to much but, I see a lot of "pullups chinups pushups" etc. Just wondering when they became "sports"?
I know them as great training for sports but haven't seen them as stand alone "sports"
The OP ask for sports for the upper body not just a work out.
As much as I don't care for them, ski poles as used for cross country training might fit, but this time of year real cross country skiing or Nordic skiing would be a great workout. As would rowing or paddle boarding but they fit better in the summer.
Basket ball can give a good whole body workout, not as much arm as you might want but some.
Tennis gets you moving and using some arm too but as with B ball you get better results doing the training work first.
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Old January 15th, 2013, 05:54 AM   #35
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Does pole dancing count as a sport?
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Old January 15th, 2013, 02:53 PM   #36
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The great thing about skating is that it doesn't feel like a workout because it's so much fun. There just isn't an equivalent for upper body, other than rowing and swimming, that I can see.

What's the difference between a chin-up and a pull-up?
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Old January 15th, 2013, 05:15 PM   #37
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chin up = palms facing you
pull up = palms away

try karate! That's fun and works your upper body!
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Old January 15th, 2013, 10:38 PM   #38
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Does pole dancing count as a sport?
Maybe, then watching it might be a sport too.
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Old January 15th, 2013, 11:46 PM   #39
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Maybe, then watching it might be a sport too.
Vertical Gymnastics may become an Olympic sport. More legitimate than roller sports? (Pokes coals of ire...)
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Old January 16th, 2013, 09:52 PM   #40
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Vertical gymnastics..... Those gals are kill ya dead strong! Amazing strength from some obviously gifted athletes. Fun to watch too!

I have a sport nature to my pullups. I like doing timed trials. My best feat yet was 100 pullups in 10m:53s. I almost beat the sub 10minute mark. Then 10 months ago I crashed at the skatepark trying to learn backflips and fubard the shnot outta my shoulder. I'm still trying to get back to where I was a year ago. Then there are the animals at barstarzz.com: http://youtu.be/PKfOuHJ_EXA

This one has got over 8million views!
http://youtu.be/j3MTqRWPiZU
So, it's actually a spectator sport as well.

There's a dude on the internet that ripped off 100 pullups consecutively! Lets not even get started with Jack ...

If I ever decide to rock climb, I'm ready! (definately a sport)
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