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Old December 9th, 2016, 05:53 PM   #1
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Another (box of) nails in the coffin of sportsmanship. Seems a waste of time and effort to pit yourself against anything but your own previous best effort. Doping from high school, if not earlier, to pro/world class level has devalued competition to the point that scientists and chemists should be getting the medals and athletes should get a "certificate of participation" card.
It's so hard to cheer for anyone anymore, it's just pathetic and sad.


From the news today:

An anti-doping report has found that more than 1,000 Russian athletes were involved in state-sponsored doping, and that the "institutional conspiracy" extended far beyond previous evidence of cheating at the Sochi Olympics in 2014.

The findings, published Friday, were accompanied by more than 1,000 individual documents released to the public as evidence (with athletes' names redacted). Russian officials have responded with "predetermined defiance," Charles Maynes reports for NPR from Moscow, with multiple agencies rejecting the findings as false.

The report is the second and final part of an investigation carried out by Canadian law professor Richard McLaren on behalf of the World Anti-Doping Agency. It describes a "systematic and centralised cover up and manipulation of the doping control process."
Report: Russia Used 'Mouse Hole' To Swap Urine Samples Of Olympic Athletes
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Report: Russia Used 'Mouse Hole' To Swap Urine Samples Of Olympic Athletes

In July, McLaren issued an initial report that focused on doping at the Sochi Olympics. At the time, he said that a "highly compressed timeline" — the report was researched and published in less than two months, going public shortly before the Rio Olympics — had forced him to be selective in what he analyzed.

The latest report is much broader in scope. It stands by the findings of the first investigation and concludes that systematic cheating — including urine-swapping to pass doping tests — also took place at the London 2012 Olympics, the Universiade Games 2013 and the Moscow IAAF World Championships in 2013.

"The Russian Olympic team corrupted the London Games 2012 on an unprecedented scale, the extent of which will probably never be fully established," the report states, describing the use of prohibited substances and various efforts to conceal the practice.
"These activities were supported by senior Russian officials, including the Minister and Deputy Minister of Sport, senior and national team coaches, RUSADA, the CSP and the Moscow Laboratory," it continues. "The desire to win medals superseded their collective moral and ethical compass and Olympic values of fair play."
At The U.S. Olympic Trials, Mixed Opinions About Russian Doping Scandal
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Old December 10th, 2016, 12:10 AM   #2
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Sochi was a dead give away, that was too obvious as Russia won almost everything. Anyone that knows anything about doping realized what was going on. Big money in sports, take the money out of sports and it will start to clean up. The summer Olympics we saw more examples of doping, some were caught others not.

Like doping, the judging in sports is just as corrupt, in all sports, politics and money all play a role.

Sports will never be 100 % clean, too many politicians involved now. Sports is now like politics, very dirty and ugly.
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Old December 10th, 2016, 06:45 AM   #3
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I don't feel old, but I am reminded every time I realize how many people don't remember the Cold War. Back then, sports domination was a form of propaganda for communist countries. In 1988, President Reagan visited the U.S.S.R. which included the current country of Russia. Recognize the plain clothes KGB officer dressed as a tourist with the camera? No, this wasn't about money, but rather is intertwined with that picture.
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Old December 10th, 2016, 03:13 PM   #4
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The drug enhancement thing will reach diminishing returns. When the athletes start dying on the track, maybe they will rethink their position.
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The drug enhancement thing will reach diminishing returns. When the athletes start dying on the track, maybe they will rethink their position.
But this hasn't been the case. As in most all sports winning brings many rewards, to some it's worth the risk of a shortened life. For many decades cheating and drug use has been in sports, and it will continue.

Winning athletes can earn enough money to financially enrich their family for generations. History shows this to be the case with many athletes that died young but left behind a financial legacy for generations, the list of names is very long. Organs that fail in a top athlete when they hit their late 40's and 50's is common.

All sports has a drug issue, always has and always will. The risk reward is worth the returns for those young enough to not know better. All sports has the skinny guy that puts on 15-30 LB of muscle in a short period of time and becomes the power hitter, the power running back or out skates everyone. Peanut butter and jam sandwiches didn't do this, nor did natural growth...

To say this will stop isn't real, it's been in sports for 100 years, everyone is looking for an advantage. The risk reward is still worth it.
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But this hasn't been the case. As in most all sports winning brings many rewards, to some it's worth the risk of a shortened life. For many decades cheating and drug use has been in sports, and it will continue.

Winning athletes can earn enough money to financially enrich their family for generations. History shows this to be the case with many athletes that died young but left behind a financial legacy for generations, the list of names is very long. Organs that fail in a top athlete when they hit their late 40's and 50's is common.

All sports has a drug issue, always has and always will. The risk reward is worth the returns for those young enough to not know better. All sports has the skinny guy that puts on 15-30 LB of muscle in a short period of time and becomes the power hitter, the power running back or out skates everyone. Peanut butter and jam sandwiches didn't do this, nor did natural growth...

To say this will stop isn't real, it's been in sports for 100 years, everyone is looking for an advantage. The risk reward is still worth it.
Excellent post, how true, we have two eyes on the front of our head, we are hunter seekers, we cheat to live.
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