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Old April 29th, 2017, 12:12 PM   #161
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1) I congratulate you on having fine logical thinking, I read that (article may be fake, but still) that 2/3 of US citizens approve missile strike on Shayrat AB so you one of 1/3 who suspect something

Thanks.

2) Sure there is no logical reason in using chemical weapons by syrian loyalists because of: a) things are going just fine without them b) they are prohibited c) chemical weapons are uneffective.

Right. He is doing fine and has Russian help.

But you will read about chemical attacks again and again because western media need some clear arguments why Assad is bad and why US politics is good. And mortar rounds with chlorine/mustard gas are easy to DIY.

Could be fake news. Could be staged. Motive? Help for the rebels, hurt Assad, set up Russia vs US. ??? Who knows. Just gotta take it all with a grain of salt.

Even if investigation will proof that Assad is not guilty, this will mean nothing, stain on his reputation will remain and he will be rememered as "bloody dictator" by western society. Ungrounded and far-fetched accusations are effective. That's not a court, you need no proofs. They may say tomorrow that he is a rapist or what he is cannibal and people will believe and support strikes/interventions. The world is what is shown on TV.
So hard to believe ANYTHING that comes from the media. And it could be that the media is telling it straight..... as far as they know. An elaborate Hoax is a strong possibility.
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Old April 29th, 2017, 09:32 PM   #162
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The news is showing footage of another NK missile being tested ,so how do we know its real ?
They develop nuclear weapons and means of delivery because this is the only way to prevent DPRK from being attacked. This is the only right decision.

They develop conventional armamants but their quantity and quality will never match US+ROK. So, they need "ultima ratio" to prevent any attacks on their country. They don't want to become next Jugoslavia/Iraq/Libya/Syria.

Only major change in ROK politics can solve the problem. But they let US deploy missile defense systems instead.

That reminds me news about deploying US missile defense systems in some east european countries. It is like:

East european country: let's allow US to deploy missile defense systems for better safety in our country!
Russia: these systems are aimed towards us. In case of war we will slam these systems first of all with missiles, maybe even with nuclear warhead missiles. So, in what way this deployment improve your country safety?
East european country: oh no russians want to kill us! Russians are so evil!!
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Old April 30th, 2017, 03:01 AM   #163
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They develop nuclear weapons and means of delivery because this is the only way to prevent DPRK from being attacked. This is the only right decision.

They develop conventional armamants but their quantity and quality will never match US+ROK. So, they need "ultima ratio" to prevent any attacks on their country. They don't want to become next Jugoslavia/Iraq/Libya/Syria.

Only major change in ROK politics can solve the problem. But they let US deploy missile defense systems instead.

That reminds me news about deploying US missile defense systems in some east european countries. It is like:

East european country: let's allow US to deploy missile defense systems for better safety in our country!
Russia: these systems are aimed towards us. In case of war we will slam these systems first of all with missiles, maybe even with nuclear warhead missiles. So, in what way this deployment improve your country safety?
East european country: oh no russians want to kill us! Russians are so evil!!
I can test it with just imagination.
Image the hissy fit the us military would throw if australia,brittain and the eu were all against the us occupation of any oil producing countrys and the petro dollar .as if american military would'nt run a slander campaign against us and start bombing until we gave in.But what im trying to be very carefull about is to not imply the american public are behind it.But the govt seem to twist everything so that it looks like we are blaming all of america,when we are not .
So many americans get on the defensive and join with the military and repeat word for word what the military secret service etc have told them to.
bottom line population control .We mean nothing but a meal ticket to them and people are waking up fast.They wont use birth control for many reasons but the main one is there will be less youth to support the ageing population ie:chinas predicament.so cull the mid and there will be a gap in the aged poputaion for approx 10 -40 years and a clear path with cheaper infastructure/pesions for youth that survive war. It is the easiest way when you have the weapons at your disposal.And the bonus being you have full control of the countrys that you invade for many years to come.
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Old May 13th, 2017, 01:31 PM   #164
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Let's just lay out some facts, and by keeping humor involved, nobody goes insane, yet



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Old May 13th, 2017, 02:44 PM   #165
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Old May 13th, 2017, 03:18 PM   #166
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This explains what is happening money wise, follow the money

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Old May 14th, 2017, 11:19 AM   #167
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This explains what is happening money wise, follow the money

https://youtu.be/1bEdMuKq30I
If trumps own country supported him financially he wouldnt have to borrow from another country.
Look after your own back yard first and that is one of trumps policys .
So maybe he is going to practice what he preaches and supports kanye west so he doesnt have to ask the russians for a loan also .LOL

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Old May 19th, 2017, 12:53 AM   #168
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Yep. time has shown it has lost its mind... lol
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Old May 19th, 2017, 01:09 PM   #170
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Yep. time has shown it has lost its mind... lol
Wanna see collusion?? Well here ya go....
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Old May 20th, 2017, 01:31 AM   #171
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Anything taken out of context seems lethal if required, but let's get to the truth.

The aforementioned link is actually a president on camera, in a real meeting doing good, not spying for Russia, and the overall explanation follows


The Obama administration has offered to help Russia improve its targeting of terrorist groups in Syria if Moscow will stop bombing civilians and opposition fighters who have signed on to a cease-fire and use its influence to force Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to do the same.

The offer early this week of what one administration official called “enhanced information sharing” does not include joint military planning, targeting or coordination with U.S. airstrikes or other operations in Syria.

But it would expand cooperation beyond the “deconfliction” talks the U.S. and Russian militaries began last year to ensure their planes do not run into each other in Syria’s increasingly crowded airspace.

Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter, who has long opposed any additional cooperation, said Thursday that if Russia would “do the right thing in Syria — that’s an important condition — as in all cases with Russia, we’re willing to work with them.”


On the other hand we have the Donald, a Russian spy, colluding with Putin to overthrow our democratic government, take away all social services,and....the first ammendment, fill only 10% of presidential federally filled positions to continue every day buisness in this democracy, and the fact remains, the Donald did collude with Putin to overthrow democracy in the US.
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Old May 20th, 2017, 04:01 AM   #172
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Anything taken out of context seems lethal if required, but let's get to the truth.

The aforementioned link is actually a president on camera, in a real meeting doing good, not spying for Russia, and the overall explanation follows


The Obama administration has offered to help Russia improve its targeting of terrorist groups in Syria if Moscow will stop bombing civilians and opposition fighters who have signed on to a cease-fire and use its influence to force Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to do the same.

The offer early this week of what one administration official called “enhanced information sharing” does not include joint military planning, targeting or coordination with U.S. airstrikes or other operations in Syria.

But it would expand cooperation beyond the “deconfliction” talks the U.S. and Russian militaries began last year to ensure their planes do not run into each other in Syria’s increasingly crowded airspace.

Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter, who has long opposed any additional cooperation, said Thursday that if Russia would “do the right thing in Syria — that’s an important condition — as in all cases with Russia, we’re willing to work with them.”


On the other hand we have the Donald, a Russian spy, colluding with Putin to overthrow our democratic government, take away all social services,and....the first ammendment, fill only 10% of presidential federally filled positions to continue every day buisness in this democracy, and the fact remains, the Donald did collude with Putin to overthrow democracy in the US.
So you think TRump is a spy.... what was obummer talking about things will change after he is re-elected? Or what about the nuclear material hillary sold... you really need to stop smoking that crap....

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It's OK as long as it is a democrook doing it...

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Old May 20th, 2017, 04:15 AM   #173
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Ursel, tell us, if you can, what are they doing to promote and protect Democracy? And, what are you doing to protect and defend the REPUBLIC for which we stand, one nation, under God?
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is a great comedian! She is so far out and out of touch you would think she was from outer space. She is wacked...
she really makes me laugh because she is in the dem party...
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Old May 22nd, 2017, 03:59 PM   #176
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Ursel, tell us, if you can, what are they doing to promote and protect Democracy? And, what are you doing to protect and defend the REPUBLIC for which we stand, one nation, under God?
What are they doing to promote democracy? Well, stopping hate speech is a good start.

What am I doing to protect and defend? Well stopping the Russian spy in the White House for a start, pointing out the lies and misdeeds of the spy in the White House will have to do.

BTW your scy-fy icon, the make believe "God" you mention doesn't have anything to do with anything if you are trying to have a sane discussion, people that pretend to do "gods" work are at best delusional, the harm being done to the constitution by these nut cases will take years to straighten out. Lying, stealing and cheating others and then asking "gods" forgiveness is classic insanity.
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What are they doing to promote democracy? Well, stopping hate speech is a good start.

What am I doing to protect and defend? Well stopping the Russian spy in the White House for a start, pointing out the lies and misdeeds of the spy in the White House will have to do.

BTW your scy-fy icon, the make believe "God" you mention doesn't have anything to do with anything if you are trying to have a sane discussion, people that pretend to do "gods" work are at best delusional, the harm being done to the constitution by these nut cases will take years to straighten out. Lying, stealing and cheating others and then asking "gods" forgiveness is classic insanity.
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White House: 'No evidence' of Trump-Russia collusion
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The White House on Monday asserted there is “no evidence” that President Trump’s associates colluded with Russia to interfere in the 2016 election after FBI Director James Comey confirmed a bureau investigation.

“Nothing has changed,” a White House official wrote in an email. “Senior Obama intelligence officials have gone on record to confirm there is NO EVIDENCE of Trump-Russia collusion and there is NO EVIDENCE of a Trump-Russia scandal.”

Comey's explosive revelation earlier Monday morning ended months of speculation about whether the federal government is probing Trump’s campaign and challenged the president’s repeated efforts to downplay his team’s alleged involvement with Moscow.

But the White House is pointing to statements made by former acting CIA chief Michael Morrell and James Clapper, former President Obama’s top intelligence official, that they have seen no evidence of collusion between Trump associates and Russians.

Ahead of the House intelligence panel hearing where Comey confirmed the probe, Trump tweeted the Russia story is “is FAKE NEWS and everyone knows it!”

“The Democrats made up and pushed the Russian story as an excuse for running a terrible campaign. Big advantage in Electoral College & lost!” he added.
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White House: 'No evidence' of Trump-Russia collusion
By Jordan Fabian

The White House on Monday asserted there is “no evidence” that President Trump’s associates colluded with Russia to interfere in the 2016 election after FBI Director James Comey confirmed a bureau investigation.

“Nothing has changed,” a White House official wrote in an email. “Senior Obama intelligence officials have gone on record to confirm there is NO EVIDENCE of Trump-Russia collusion and there is NO EVIDENCE of a Trump-Russia scandal.”

Comey's explosive revelation earlier Monday morning ended months of speculation about whether the federal government is probing Trump’s campaign and challenged the president’s repeated efforts to downplay his team’s alleged involvement with Moscow.

But the White House is pointing to statements made by former acting CIA chief Michael Morrell and James Clapper, former President Obama’s top intelligence official, that they have seen no evidence of collusion between Trump associates and Russians.

Ahead of the House intelligence panel hearing where Comey confirmed the probe, Trump tweeted the Russia story is “is FAKE NEWS and everyone knows it!”

“The Democrats made up and pushed the Russian story as an excuse for running a terrible campaign. Big advantage in Electoral College & lost!” he added.

Add up all the alternate facts "lies" the White House has released, 500 and counting, their credibility is in doubt.

Morrel and Clapper were both answering a question about a subject under investigation, both pointed out the investigation and both declined to answer, of course Fox took the answers out of context and put words in their mouths, so, they both declined to answer, neither said there was no collusion.
So far four people have been served with subpoenas, that the public knows of, and now another is going to a member of the higher ranked in the White House, and it's speculated that it's Jared, and it's only beginning, next up RICO, Azerbaijan is coming up, which will implicate Jareds wife, it will be interesting to watch master Donald feed everyone to the flames, he may escape, but only the most deplorable deplorables will still support the Russian spy, soon his finances will be revealed, since the early 90's he has been unable to finance anything with US banks, so we will learn where the money's coming from, anybody got a guess?
BTW the percentage of deplorables dropped five percentage points over the weekend, you can fool everybody some of the time, wake up, it's not to late
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Add up all the alternate facts "lies" the White House has released, 500 and counting, their credibility is in doubt.

Morrel and Clapper were both answering a question about a subject under investigation, both pointed out the investigation and both declined to answer, of course Fox took the answers out of context and put words in their mouths, so, they both declined to answer, neither said there was no collusion.
So far four people have been served with subpoenas, that the public knows of, and now another is going to a member of the higher ranked in the White House, and it's speculated that it's Jared, and it's only beginning, next up RICO, Azerbaijan is coming up, which will implicate Jareds wife, it will be interesting to watch master Donald feed everyone to the flames, he may escape, but only the most deplorable deplorables will still support the Russian spy, soon his finances will be revealed, since the early 90's he has been unable to finance anything with US banks, so we will learn where the money's coming from, anybody got a guess?
BTW the percentage of deplorables dropped five percentage points over the weekend, you can fool everybody some of the time, wake up, it's not to late
Lies from the bo white house... yea bucket loads of lies.... been watching the fake news again huh...
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