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Old September 4th, 2015, 11:38 AM   #1
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I had planned on going to session at 6:30 with my kids but they changed to fall hours and there were no sessions to be found. So, I put on my outside wheels and skated to the local hot dog stand, my youngest on longboard and my daughter on bike.
Then we went to the local bike trail. It's about 2miles long. I'm not quite used to hills yet, so I hung on to the bike on the steep downhill and borrowed some of my daughters brake power.

I don't do trails and streets too often but I really enjoyed it. after 10 miles everyone else was done, but I wanted to keep going. But I came inside anyway.

I'm not great at stopping quickly on rough surfaces yet. I hate to bust up my toe stops too quickly. T-stops same for wheels. I'm going a bit fast to spin stop and I usually don't have the real estate for that without getting too far out in the road anyway. I was getting better at the end. I can plow a bit to bleed speed, but not enough to control the bigger hills.
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Old September 4th, 2015, 05:31 PM   #2
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Yippee!
That sounds like fun!
Stopping efficiency and confidence will come with time. Toestops are not that expensive and are supposed to be used. I've had good luck with my RX toestops holding up outside and inside.
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Old September 5th, 2015, 07:24 AM   #3
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When the downhill slope goes steeper than plow stopping can handle, and a reverse stop is not an option, a heel stop is the only thing that gets the job well.

My avatar PIC shows my primary outdoor training skates setup (Nova plates with Panther trucks), built with the Novas 100% glue mounted in reversed orientation to accomplish the supper effective level of a heel braking scheme I need for urban skating.

The PIC below is another Laser plate build on a pair of kangaroo leather Nike soccer shoes with DragonPlate CF forefoot sole reinforcement, built for a smaller footed skater.

On longer hills, it is best to alternate braking between feet so friction heat build up does not accelerate the wear rate too much.

Having larger OD wheels and a high deck height plate design makes finding stops with adequately long stems near impossible. The Laser design with the internally threaded metal stem sleeve helps a lot to solve that issue.

If you use this approach, I advise that a heel brake stop setup have at least 4-5 full turns of thread engagement



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Old September 6th, 2015, 11:08 AM   #4
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I had planned on going to session at 6:30 with my kids but they changed to fall hours and there were no sessions to be found. So, I put on my outside wheels and skated to the local hot dog stand, my youngest on longboard and my daughter on bike.
Then we went to the local bike trail. It's about 2miles long. I'm not quite used to hills yet, so I hung on to the bike on the steep downhill and borrowed some of my daughters brake power.

I don't do trails and streets too often but I really enjoyed it. after 10 miles everyone else was done, but I wanted to keep going. But I came inside anyway.

I'm not great at stopping quickly on rough surfaces yet. I hate to bust up my toe stops too quickly. T-stops same for wheels. I'm going a bit fast to spin stop and I usually don't have the real estate for that without getting too far out in the road anyway. I was getting better at the end. I can plow a bit to bleed speed, but not enough to control the bigger hills.
Hows your spin at full on sprint in the rink? That or plow stop even. T stops wont get you very good results on downhill grades. It takes a lot of leg squeeze strenght that even very experienced skaters arent going to have to be able to fight gravity.

The "stick 8s" skating drill for a repedative plow stop effect can work well if one cannot do a continuous plow becaise of grip/skill/confidence problems. Asphalt will eat your skin very fast so I can understand not trusting the same skills you use in a rink easily as when you go outdoors. It just takes time.
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Old September 6th, 2015, 02:08 PM   #5
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Hows your spin at full on sprint in the rink? That or plow stop even. T stops wont get you very good results on downhill grades. It takes a lot of leg squeeze strenght that even very experienced skaters arent going to have to be able to fight gravity.

The "stick 8s" skating drill for a repedative plow stop effect can work well if one cannot do a continuous plow becaise of grip/skill/confidence problems. Asphalt will eat your skin very fast so I can understand not trusting the same skills you use in a rink easily as when you go outdoors. It just takes time.
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My spin stop isn't so good ar full sprint. And I don't hockey stop. I find some way to bleed enough speed to spin stop usually.
I probably should learn beter emergency stopping like hockey stops.
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My spin stop isn't so good ar full sprint. And I don't hockey stop. I find some way to bleed enough speed to spin stop usually.
I probably should learn beter emergency stopping like hockey stops.
Its never a bad thing to learn. Being able to stop super fast at any speed, left/right turn going forwards of backwards is something I pride myself on. Acceleration or top speed is nothing without stopping and agility.

I used to have to carve hard going backwards to flip over and hockey stop in hairy situations. That is diminishing quickly as I have learned to just snap into a full hockey stop going backwards. Still needs work as its not as fast as id like before the braking takes effect, which is mainly due to needing practice snapping my feet into position, but its worlds better than 6 months ago and rivals my forward hockey stops.
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