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Old August 11th, 2019, 01:52 PM   #21
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I started with my dad's 1948ish 297's I think they were. At least when they actually fell apart in 1969 the 297 was what they best matched up to. They had Gloria Nord plates with all the trucks locked down. I skated on them for another six years before I stopped skating altogether. Thirty six years later my doctor told me I needed more cardio. Since I wasn't getting any cardio at all I figured I'd drag out the old skates and see if I could still do it. Around that time I joined this forum with a ton of questions. Somebody said I needed to change the wheels, bearings and cushions. The right foot, right side wheels were coned, the bearings didn't turn so well because they were so rusty and when I took the trucks apart the cushions turned to dust.
Several different Snyder plates ending with Imperial Lites NTS later and now the Roll Line Ring plates which are fantastic and I'm happy as a clam. Except for the boots. I had a pair of Edea Classica and there was 0 break in time and they were awesome...except I couldn't turn in them because the ankles didn't give so they had to go. I finally retired the 1969 297's and got a pair of 192 Riedells and they hurt my feet unless I leave the laces real loose. So, another pair of 297's is in my future...and I dread the break in time.
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Old August 11th, 2019, 02:43 PM   #22
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I started with my dad's 1948ish 297's I think they were. At least when they actually fell apart in 1969 the 297 was what they best matched up to. They had Gloria Nord plates with all the trucks locked down. I skated on them for another six years before I stopped skating altogether. Thirty six years later my doctor told me I needed more cardio. Since I wasn't getting any cardio at all I figured I'd drag out the old skates and see if I could still do it. Around that time I joined this forum with a ton of questions. Somebody said I needed to change the wheels, bearings and cushions. The right foot, right side wheels were coned, the bearings didn't turn so well because they were so rusty and when I took the trucks apart the cushions turned to dust.
Several different Snyder plates ending with Imperial Lites NTS later and now the Roll Line Ring plates which are fantastic and I'm happy as a clam. Except for the boots. I had a pair of Edea Classica and there was 0 break in time and they were awesome...except I couldn't turn in them because the ankles didn't give so they had to go. I finally retired the 1969 297's and got a pair of 192 Riedells and they hurt my feet unless I leave the laces real loose. So, another pair of 297's is in my future...and I dread the break in time.
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My inline boots fit really well. And are very stiff, so I only have to tighten up the top two eyelets, the rest is barely snug if that. Also use waxed laces.
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Old August 13th, 2019, 11:22 PM   #23
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Mr. Fierocious1,

I am totally with you on the long plates, but why did you cut down the wheel diameter? Wheelbite? Weight savings? Faster startup speed? Prefer the feel of smaller diameter?

My preference is to go as big as the plates will allow, and bigger diameter for top speed. What's the ding dang deal?
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Old August 14th, 2019, 07:07 AM   #24
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Mr. Fierocious1,

I am totally with you on the long plates, but why did you cut down the wheel diameter? Wheelbite? Weight savings? Faster startup speed? Prefer the feel of smaller diameter?

My preference is to go as big as the plates will allow, and bigger diameter for top speed. What's the ding dang deal?
Bigger wheels dont necessarily mean faster speeds. Urethane should be no thicker than a half inch or so, after that it gets really mushy.

Narrower wheels are also better than a 40-44mm width
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Old August 14th, 2019, 10:45 AM   #25
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Mr. Fierocious1,

I am totally with you on the long plates, but why did you cut down the wheel diameter? Wheelbite? Weight savings? Faster startup speed? Prefer the feel of smaller diameter?

My preference is to go as big as the plates will allow, and bigger diameter for top speed. What's the ding dang deal?
They were very heavy. Also the big radius on the back side of the wheel moved the tread to the outside. The face is where all the weight is that could be eliminated. So when the face is cut back to the hub you lose app 7 % of the weght. But this makes for a very narrow tread. So diameter gets cut down just enough to get tread width back. I stopped at 73mm. I don't have much issue with boot bite, I can raise the boots easily if needed. I lost app 10% total weight, kept the tread width.

If the wheels had been made without the back side radius, I would have only cut off the outside face to remove extra weight.
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Old August 14th, 2019, 01:11 PM   #26
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IMHO, you've taken all the worst possible skate parts and assembled a fubar.

The Boots are the worst possible boot to use for roller skating, a hard shell, I know, it's how they skate in GB, but they're BLIMEY. (They might look better if they were orange and black striped )

The Plates are ridiculously long, again IMHO.

The wheels are the silliest, boat anchors attached to skateboards attached to a plastic shell.

If one were at the top of a 5 mile 15degree slope those would be perfect, the perfect tool to hit something at 80mph.

How did a discussion about 101a wheels locking up on wooden floors go full FUBAR?
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Old August 14th, 2019, 06:20 PM   #27
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IMHO, you've taken all the worst possible skate parts and assembled a fubar.

The Boots are the worst possible boot to use for roller skating, a hard shell, I know, it's how they skate in GB, but they're BLIMEY. (They might look better if they were orange and black striped )

The Plates are ridiculously long, again IMHO.

The wheels are the silliest, boat anchors attached to skateboards attached to a plastic shell.

If one were at the top of a 5 mile 15degree slope those would be perfect, the perfect tool to hit something at 80mph.

How did a discussion about 101a wheels locking up on wooden floors go full FUBAR?
Doesn't take much to make you a hateful little sh!t.

The remedy for the OP has turned into softer bugger wheels, or skating faster, and here we are. I've never been tripped up from debris at speeds above 12 mph or so. Walking speed = danger.
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Doesn't take much to make you a hateful little sh!t.

The remedy for the OP has turned into softer bugger wheels, or skating faster, and here we are. I've never been tripped up from debris at speeds above 12 mph or so. Walking speed = danger.

Why, Thank you Trom.

All we need now is a picture of your skateboards to complete the absurd

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Why, Thank you Trom.

All we need now is a picture of your skateboards to complete the absurd

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Maybe if you learned how to skate and edge, or socialize even... you wouldnt be so grumpy, overly critical and irritable about what other people make excellent use of. I'm far from the only one running a "skateboard" setup.

The best skaters I know run setups just like mine, also with 0 issues.

If you're content to go slow(ly) in tiny little circles, then no, something like what I use wont be the best fit. Nor would a short forward, art skates come to mind, more so their axle placement choices.

My skate setup would also be a bad choice for loops. What it does get used for... it's perfect. Lateral stability, correctly placed axles for a real feel with the floor and the bodys natural balance points.
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Old August 15th, 2019, 01:40 AM   #30
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Maybe if you learned how to skate and edge, or socialize even... you wouldnt be so grumpy, overly critical and irritable about what other people make excellent use of. I'm far from the only one running a "skateboard" setup.

The best skaters I know run setups just like mine, also with 0 issues.

If you're content to go slow(ly) in tiny little circles, then no, something like what I use wont be the best fit. Nor would a snort forward, art skates come to mind, more so their axle placement choices.

My skate setup would also be a bad choice for loops. What it does get used for... it's perfect. Lateral stability, correctly placed axles for a real feel with the floor and the bodys natural balance points.
My son tryed out my skates and could not turn them. LOL To run long plates it takes time to build up the strength in your calves and ankles to equalize the forces needed. I will never go back to a short plate. 7.75 is the shortest I care to skate. My 8 inch plates are perfect for speed and stability, something that is often said cannot happen with DA45. It's just a fun plate to skate on.
I ain't worried about the negativity from the pretenders...

Finally after years of skating old bearings with no upkeep, threw away 4 bearings this weekend. No problem, dug out some fresher used bearings and installed. Good to go....
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