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Old December 4th, 2016, 06:25 PM   #1
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More of a 'right hand man/lady' that loves the classical roller rink! (Mods-If this is in the wrong place can it be moved). I am in the process of purchasing a professional built and well maintained 17,000 plus square foot roller rink. Located in the panhandle of Florida outside of a larger city. Slightly smaller county. Been operating non-stop since 1980.

It did not go out of business, the owner is almost 80 years old and wanted his kids to take it over but they all have their own satisfying well paying careers outside of the area. The owner is involved in two other business ventures and needed to get rid of this. I am buying it and relocating there next year.

It has a clear span of about 100' by 150' . DJ Booth, stage for live acts, dressing rooms, concession area, seating for over 50 people, 3 studio apartments outside of it, etc. I will redesign the concession area and put in a modern food service with some specialty foods. More than just frozen pizza and roller grill hot dogs! I am also contracting with one of the best lighting/sound guys to come in and redo the lighting/sound system with infinite and trick features. I have a great contact in the amusement vending business and he is willing to equip and asset in designing my new gaming area.

I do plan to do numerous programs with co-sponsors in the local business community as well as a 501c3 entity for fundraisers and helping the underprivileged children in the area which I am extremely motivated and passion filled about! I plan to cater to all groups, children, young adults and adults. Parties and special events will be held on a regular basis.

I am very serious and looking for a person that likes this type of business and wants to be a part of it full time. Please contact me to discuss. Thanks.

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Best of luck for success in Florida. If you ever feel like expanding, to the west coast, you couldn't find a more inviting area than southern Oregon's Rogue Valley.

The rink here closed a few years back, no one took it over, and now it just sits, waiting for the crowds to return. In an area with the population in excess of 260,000, with two ladies roller derby teams, and the only roller rink in the area is 100 miles away, there is a huge vacuum waiting to be filled.

The rink's obituary is below:

http://www.mailtribune.com/article/2...NEWS/403260310
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Best of luck for success in Florida. If you ever feel like expanding, to the west coast, you couldn't find a more inviting area than southern Oregon's Rogue Valley.

The rink here closed a few years back, no one took it over, and no it just sits, waiting for the crowds to return. In an area with the population in excess of 260,000, with two ladies roller derby teams, and the only roller rink in the area is 100 miles away, there is a huge vacuum waiting to be filled.

The rink's obituary is below:

http://www.mailtribune.com/article/2...NEWS/403260310

I only got to skate there twice. But man was it fun. I hope one day it reopens. A friend of mine was looking into buying it, but he got involved in keeping SkateWorld in Springfield open. Close to where he lives so he didn't have to move.
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I only got to skate there twice. But man was it fun. I hope one day it reopens. A friend of mine was looking into buying it, but he got involved in keeping SkateWorld in Springfield open. Close to where he lives so he didn't have to move.
I've heard SkateWorld is not taking care of their rink.

As for me, I have to travel to Roseburg, to skate at the YMCA, 200 miles round trip. The floor is awesome, but for maximum performance I need a wheel with less grip than my Roll-line panther 95d which was perfect for the floor in Medford. The hardwood at Roseburg is very tight.
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I've heard SkateWorld is not taking care of their rink.

As for me, I have to travel to Roseburg, to skate at the YMCA, 200 miles round trip. The floor is awesome, but for maximum performance I need a wheel with less grip than my Roll-line panther 95d which was perfect for the floor in Medford. The hardwood at Roseburg is very tight.
So it really is fun to stay at the YMCA. I've thought wbout asking our Y if I could use open gym for spins and jumps practice. I'd get a membership if they would let me
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I've heard SkateWorld is not taking care of their rink.

As for me, I have to travel to Roseburg, to skate at the YMCA, 200 miles round trip. The floor is awesome, but for maximum performance I need a wheel with less grip than my Roll-line panther 95d which was perfect for the floor in Medford. The hardwood at Roseburg is very tight.
The new owners are supposed to be re-surfacing the floor. I haven't seen this happen yet. But it's still early. Fingers crossed. I will have to checkout the YMCA next time I'm down there.
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Best of luck for success in Florida. If you ever feel like expanding, to the west coast, you couldn't find a more inviting area than southern Oregon's Rogue Valley.

The rink here closed a few years back, no one took it over, and now it just sits, waiting for the crowds to return. In an area with the population in excess of 260,000, with two ladies roller derby teams, and the only roller rink in the area is 100 miles away, there is a huge vacuum waiting to be filled.

The rink's obituary is below:

http://www.mailtribune.com/article/2...NEWS/403260310
I can't get the link to open, Do you have the name of the rink and city?
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Thanks for your interest. This was a big loss for me; I spent a lot of time and money there over 25 years. It has a lot of potential. Our city has two ladies flat track derby teams that would love to have a rink for a home instead of the armory, and a church gymnasium.

Don't know why the link didn't work. It still works for me. But nevertheless, here is an article from last month regarding Roller Odyssey in Medford, Oregon.
http://www.mailtribune.com/news/2016...ect-attraction


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Posted Dec 19, 2016 at 3:38 PM Updated Dec 20, 2016 at 12:25 PM
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Staring into a cold and empty void of orange carpet and dusty wood floors, Brookings Realtor Tiffany Berg brainstorms ways to make the former Roller Odyssey building a part of the community once again.

An admitted "skate kid" who grew up going to a nearly identical skating rink in her hometown of Reno, Nevada, Berg decided to help her father, property owner Buddy Shaw, take the 26,000-square-foot Medford structure from a state of vacancy to one of usefulness.

The property with the faded teal exterior paint hosted its last roller-skate session in April 2014. Berg maintains the property to keep transients from camping out and meets with potential buyers to discuss ways to use the space.

"It's for sale. It's for lease. It's open to something creative. It's just so tough to be here and look at it without kids out there enjoying it," Berg said.

"Dad is open to anything that would get it open so it's not just sitting here empty. All the parts are here - the snack bar, lockers, the floor. ... You just need a popcorn and soda machine and some skates and it's operable."

The sale price is $2.5 million, but Berg said her father is open to offers and community partnerships if it means the property would no longer be vacant.

"He knows that if it's run as a skate rink that the price would have to come down," Berg said.

Tucked off the roadway at 2425 S. Pacific Highway, west of Charles Point apartment complex, the property didn't look much different when it opened back in 1977. Developed by an entity known as Fite Development Co., the property was purchased by Berg's grandfather, Archie Shaw.

The property was then tangled in a complicated real estate agreement in which the development company got half of the $8,000 monthly lease paid by Medford Skate University, which longtime Rogue Valley residents Cheryl and Sheldon Masterson opened in 1991.

After Sheldon Masterson died in an automobile accident in 2009, his wife operated the facility until, due to rising expenses and needed upgrades to the facility, she closed the doors.

Masterson did not respond to messages seeking comment for this story. Family member and one-time rink manager Jason Childress said the former owners had "sold everything related to it" and would have no interest in reopening, "even if the owner of the building that forced us out wasn't involved."

"The building owner thought he was going to make millions selling the property to the (Coquille Tribe) for the casino, so he broke our lease and made it impossible with his rent increase and half of a million dollars he wanted us to invest just to get another six-month lease," Childress said.

Buddy Shaw, who co-owns the property with a sibling, denied forcing closure and said the lease ended when the previous tenants could not keep up rent or pay required insurance. Shaw said few serious buyers have come forward since the property was shuttered.

"It would tickle me to death to see it opened again," Shaw said. "The last owners sold the stuff that was there, they even took the skates and kitchen appliances. We'd like to see it used as a skating rink and, if not that, then in some other uses that would be compatible, like Nerf fighting or stuff for local churches.

"I know it would take a little effort and money to start it up again, but most of it's already there."

Real estate dealings and operation costs aside, local roller derby coach Gordon Sievers said community members would be thrilled to see the valley's only skating rink reopen.

"I saw my first roller derby bout at Roller Odyssey, relearned how to skate there, became a roller derby referee and later the coach of the Sis-Q Rollerz," Sievers said. "We always told our new skaters to skate as much as they could. It was a great loss when the rink closed down.

"Now that I have two young daughters, I miss the chance of being able to take them to the rink and teaching them how to skate. I drive by the building every day, and over the last few years have watched the Realtor signs change and the building sit vacant and think that it is sad that our community has not been allowed to skate there."

Local resident Melissa Cantwell agreed. Cantwell said she knew few locals without memories from Roller Odyssey.

"I had my 16th birthday party at Roller Odyssey. I met my husband there. My story is less about derby and more about the memories I made there and the memories I would like to make with my children," she said.

"There is such a hole in the community without a skating rink. More often than not when I tell people I play derby, they talk about not having a place to skate. It is sad to drive by that empty building knowing it could be put to good use."

For information on use or purchase of the rink, call Berg at 530-310-4272.

- Reach freelance writer Buffy Pollock at buffyp76@yahoo.com.
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With apologies to the OP, I will post this last comment in his thread. I've copied the article about the closing of the rink in 2014:

http://www.mailtribune.com/article/2...NEWS/403260310
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Dreary winter days are about to get a little darker and longer for Rogue Valley roller skaters.
By GREG STILES Dreary winter days are about to get a little darker and longer for Rogue Valley roller skaters.

Roller Odyssey will close its doors April 6, ending a 37-year skate party spanning multiple generations on South Pacific Highway.

"I've been coming here as long as I can remember," said Hedrick Middle School eighth-grader Jace Greene. "I got skates for my birthday a long time ago, started skating around the house, then I came here. I come here every week, so I'm pretty upset."

Longtime manager Heather Derry said Roller Odyssey operator Cheryl Masterson was unable to reach a satisfactory lease agreement with landlord Anne Shaw Tudesko, whose family has owned the property and building for decades, and so elected to shutter the business.

"They wanted $9,500 a month in rent, plus $100,000 worth of upgrades within six months," Derry said. "Then after six months, it was going to be a month-to-month lease. This is not the kind of business you can easily move."

Roller Odyssey sits on property south of RoxyAnn Lanes, where the Coquille Tribe hopes to develop a casino, and just west of Charles Point apartment complex, which has nearly filled the surrounding acreage.

"It's become quite a sought-after property," Derry said. "We've been approached by both the casino people and the apartment people and they're not looking at the building, they are looking at the property."

Tudesko, who lives in Sloughhouse, Calif., southeast of Sacramento, did not respond to telephone and social media messages Tuesday.

For regulars like Jace, who skates around the Roller Odyssey floor for about four hours a week, practicing skills and learning new tricks, the challenge will be to find a new outlet.

"I'll have to skate around the neighborhood now, which isn't as fun," he said. "I may have to switch to ice skating."

Three decades ago, Jack Sterling's mom brought him to a spanking new Medford Skate University - the venue's former name. Now, the 36-year-old electrician regularly brings his daughter Hannah to the rink on Friday nights.

"It's all really, really sad," Sterling said. "Even when I don't have my kids I like skating, because it's a good workout and fun at the same time. There aren't too many things that are fun and give you exercise at the same time. I'm really bummed; I'm hoping for some kind of miracle."

Among the many elements lost when such a venue closes is the party room.

Hedrick Middle School eighth-grader Jace Greene says he's been skating at the Roller Odyssey for as long as he can remember. The Medford rink will close April 6 after 37 years in business.

"My childhood is filled with fond memories of roller skating and my two daughters are now finally old enough that I take them to roller skate there and it is something we can all enjoy together," Kim Samitore said. "We even had a birthday party for both my daughters - because their birthdays are a month apart - there last year and it was one of the nicest party experiences we have had."

Granted the d├ęcor is dated, but that has a certain appeal as generations pass.

"Walking through the door is like walking back in time to 1987 when I was a kid, but the youth of today are looking for something more modern," said Samitore, who gives horseback-riding lessons. "Long story short, my daughters and I are extremely saddened to see the business go. I don't know where we will be able to go to have the mother-daughter fun that we do there. We live on a farm, so skating through our neighborhood is not an option. As a working mom, opportunities to step away from life for a few hours and find something that I also enjoy doing in a childlike fashion is rare, and that is what the roller rink offered us."

Derry said Roller Odyssey managers trolled the valley looking for a suitable location to move the business.

"Finding a free-standing building without (support) poles and with an acoustic-tile ceiling isn't easy," Derry said. "We haven't been able to come up with anything that meets our requirements."

Cheryl and Sheldon Masterson bought the business in 1991. Sheldon Masterson died in an automobile accident near Glendale in September 2009.

"When the economy went down in 2007, we struggled," Derry said. "We've worked hard the last few years to turn it around and were finally on the upswing. Anyone who thinks they can come in and buy the property is going to have to compete with some pretty big businesses."

When a lease couldn't be worked out, the decision was made to continue through the winter - the peak season for indoor rinks - and finish on a high note during spring break.

Jason Childress, another manager, said a crowd of 200 skaters on the floor wasn't unusual at a facility that could handle 1,200 visitors.

"After we get to 350 or 400 people," he said, "that's when we would start running out of (rental) skates."
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So is the OP keeping it open or is it closing? I would be happy to consult on the lighting and sound to contribute to the future of the rink.

This crap really bums me out..............
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ok so i read down a few posts and see this

http://www.mailtribune.com/news/2016...ect-attraction

That was the rink in OR, sorry I got confused that would be a little far from me here in Tampa. Wish I was closer been thinking of doing a rink myself.

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Depressing....I have been in many different business in a few different locales. The restaurant business with two hugely successful venues in two different parts of Manhattan years ago. Both demises were from partner personal reasons and one was from a landlord take over at lease end with no option to renew. Another story by all means.

Other businesses were also cyclic but I always took something established and improved upon it and worked it like my own baby. Worked it with heart and soul. Lots of people told me don't get into the skating rink business but then they were all non skating rink people.

The above story is sad and real, but that stuff can and does happen to any kind of business.

With the one I am buying I am putting in well over 1 million dollars. I am putting in a full food service with specialty sandwiches and pizzas among lots of other things, a full arcade with a great redemption counter, a pro shop with inventory, new lighting and sound from hopefully Matt Wisdom and lots of other things. I will be there 7 days a week 12 to 15 hours a day, I am not scared of that, I have worked my other businesses 7 days a week 18 hours a day, doesn't bother me, I will have a nice office with my 7 foot couch and blankets and pillows.

But the one thing I don't understand about the skating rink business, is the strong negativity and death wishes by so many as compared to other things that fail just as easily.
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Depressing....I have been in many different business in a few different locales. The restaurant business with two hugely successful venues in two different parts of Manhattan years ago. Both demises were from partner personal reasons and one was from a landlord take over at lease end with no option to renew. Another story by all means.

Other businesses were also cyclic but I always took something established and improved upon it and worked it like my own baby. Worked it with heart and soul. Lots of people told me don't get into the skating rink business but then they were all non skating rink people.

The above story is sad and real, but that stuff can and does happen to any kind of business.

With the one I am buying I am putting in well over 1 million dollars. I am putting in a full food service with specialty sandwiches and pizzas among lots of other things, a full arcade with a great redemption counter, a pro shop with inventory, new lighting and sound from hopefully Matt Wisdom and lots of other things. I will be there 7 days a week 12 to 15 hours a day, I am not scared of that, I have worked my other businesses 7 days a week 18 hours a day, doesn't bother me, I will have a nice office with my 7 foot couch and blankets and pillows.

But the one thing I don't understand about the skating rink business, is the strong negativity and death wishes by so many as compared to other things that fail just as easily.

It's a niche market and theres not many "true skaters" left. Add to that "Florida" , home of the newly wed and nearly dead . Florida is a funny state to do business in. Feast or famine. Feast in winter with snowbirds and famine in summer with high heat, humidity and only locals left. Pro shops make little money anymore because everyone wants it cheap on the Internet. It'll be tough to turn over inventory. Great food means nothing if there's no one to eat it. People want popcorn , dogs and coke and will spend accordingly. Alcohol is a must if you want to make money. Beer, wine and drinks for parents, pop for the kids.
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It's a niche market and theres not many "true skaters" left. Add to that "Florida" , home of the newly wed and nearly dead . Florida is a funny state to do business in. Feast or famine. Feast in winter with snowbirds and famine in summer with high heat, humidity and only locals left. Pro shops make little money anymore because everyone wants it cheap on the Internet. It'll be tough to turn over inventory. Great food means nothing if there's no one to eat it. People want popcorn , dogs and coke and will spend accordingly. Alcohol is a must if you want to make money. Beer, wine and drinks for parents, pop for the kids.
Some issues can be addressed and others pan out naturally. I read your response. Like your other thread, I am not in central or southern Florida, I was raised in extreme southeastern Florida in the Miami Vice days, LOL, I think I was one of the very few Metro-Dade cops that didn't have a felony or go to federal prison back then. Seriously.

The rink is in extreme northern Florida, panhandle. Huge community involvement being right next to a major city of sorts.

I am familiar with the food at numerous family venues, bowling, FEC's, theaters, etc., I have a 4 year old and 2 ten year olds. I am doing the regular 'junk' concessions stuff, the specialty items I call them are for the parents instead of sitting on the side lines with their arms folded, 'let's hurry up kids', 'let's go guys'. Hence, the food for them, the arcade section for them, etc. I find myself doing the same when it is 'kid only' from the food to the games to even the plastic seating, etc., and so on. I am also focusing on a complete safe-place where the parents can relax and know we have the security, safety and related issues covered.
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Before putting a million dollars into an operating rink....why not operate it a while? Try little tests to see what brings more customers. Is the sound system bad? Or the music choices for the clientele? Changing the music mix might get a lot more customers coming than adding Klipsch speakers and a modern system.

I find the different cliches don't like to be at a rink at the same time. Maybe try an adult night and adult day sessions, where you don't have the tiny kids to run over. Have parties and such for the little kids, and make it easy for class and birthday parties to have fun, and you do all the work.
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Some good food for the parents not skating - that sounds like a great idea.

Klipsch speakers - also great Idea, Dreamland Pensacola has two large rings of Klipsch speakers and the sound system is excellent.

You probably already have a sound system since the rink is established - just make sure no one messes up the settings. Don't lose the bass!
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Some good food for the parents not skating - that sounds like a great idea.

Klipsch speakers - also great Idea, Dreamland Pensacola has two large rings of Klipsch speakers and the sound system is excellent.

You probably already have a sound system since the rink is established - just make sure no one messes up the settings. Don't lose the bass!
I find myself doing the same things ref food and activity for a parent in the Minneapolis/St Paul 9twin cities) entire area with a 4 year old and 2 ten year olds! Not skating but everything else, and I am the one bringing the couple of hundred dollars to drop for the kids. The places with the little better seating, the better food and the slightly comfortable surrounding are the ones I steer my kids to. Hopefully that makes sense to you guys. I rather eat a duck/spinach and pepper pizza hand made than a frozen Jacks Pizza in a makeshift gas station convenience store pizza oven. I rather eat a Korean Kimchee Bulgogi hot dog all dressed out rather than a hot dog off the grill thrown on a cold bun with ketchup and mustard. I rather eat a real philly steak sandwich or a homemade meatball sandwich than Deli Express plastic wrapped sandwich, etc., etc. The list goes on. I see the difference at the FEC's, the water parks, the movie theaters, etc.
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