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Old April 8th, 2017, 04:40 PM   #1
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How do we keep having issues with ordered skates? A friend from the rink ordered his new skates. It took forever to get them. Then the one thing I keep on seeing happening is everyone assumes this is a short forward order... You order quads and oh this is another short forward.... Nice looking avengers, nice boots and about an inch too short of plate... And mounted rearward. How can you gain skaters and not knowing how to mount plates. This really sucks, talk about nose over...
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Old April 8th, 2017, 07:39 PM   #2
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Short plate, rear mount? Yeah that's the pits...
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Old April 9th, 2017, 05:14 AM   #3
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How do we keep having issues with ordered skates? A friend from the rink ordered his new skates. It took forever to get them. Then the one thing I keep on seeing happening is everyone assumes this is a short forward order... You order quads and oh this is another short forward.... Nice looking avengers, nice boots and about an inch too short of plate... And mounted rearward. How can you gain skaters and not knowing how to mount plates. This really sucks, talk about nose over...
I suspect it's a common mistake by mounting new plates the old way.

Traditionally, plates are mounted flush against the heel, or nearly so. Most of the time, that works fine. The size chart for the Avengers in particular, however, is intended for a mounting that's not flush with the heel. The combination of the two results in what you're seeing.
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Old April 9th, 2017, 02:21 PM   #4
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I suspect it's a common mistake by mounting new plates the old way.

Traditionally, plates are mounted flush against the heel, or nearly so. Most of the time, that works fine. The size chart for the Avengers in particular, however, is intended for a mounting that's not flush with the heel. The combination of the two results in what you're seeing.
Yes, I know. It's just sad that people mounting do not know what short forward means and when to stop a job that is not going to work out correctly. Then you get people pissed off spending money on a nice skate project that turns to crap fast. Production mounters should know better.
We all would like to see more skaters, more mature skaters too. What a way to start off ruining the fun.
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Old April 10th, 2017, 08:57 AM   #5
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Yes, I know. It's just sad that people mounting do not know what short forward means and when to stop a job that is not going to work out correctly. Then you get people pissed off spending money on a nice skate project that turns to crap fast. Production mounters should know better.
We all would like to see more skaters, more mature skaters too. What a way to start off ruining the fun.
Some plates are'nt designed to be mounted forward on a soft boot.
The front mounting area on the crazy venus has the pad area on the front too far forward and needs a stiffener btween the boot and the plate.
And this is exaggerated if you saw the toe stop off and try to mount them even further forward..
No harm done really as you can always seperate the factory mount and remount them furher forward in most cases.
I know you shouldnt have to if youve paid for a sport or forward mount.
But just have a look at most factory packages and you can see its about cost over quality.And most beginners cant tell the difference .The fun spoiler is when somebody in the know tells the puchaser that they need to spend more on thier newly puchased pair of quads.
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Old April 12th, 2017, 11:56 PM   #6
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Agreed. I gave up on having new skates mounted. Unless you use Doc in this Forum, or take the time to find a professional like him, your mount is going to be done by the just-hired teenager with no experience, no mechanical skills whatsoever, who couldn’t care less about their job, and who is going to quit tomorrow because, “this job sucks.”

To be fair, I have had more good mounts than bad. But the last two were so bad it just turned me off to future mount orders. I re-mounted those botched jobs myself and did the same for my lasts two pair of new skates.

One benefit of DIY is that you can experiment with the placement before mounting. I duct tape the plate to the boot and test it in various fore and aft positions. Make sure the wheels stick out evenly on both sides of the boot, of course. Then check everything twice and when everything feels right, mount it.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 05:57 PM   #7
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I guess as a trainer, I wonder are there guidelines to mount plates? If there are two ways, "traditional and short forward", are there specs to what that means? There are ways to mistake-proof any assembly. It's called Instructions. I've heard there is a template, from Snyder I think.

I ask because I have a pair of boots that I'm might mount plates on myself. I will be looking for said instructions soon....
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Old April 18th, 2017, 06:14 PM   #8
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There really is no right or wrong way to mount plates. Because it is all matter of personal preference. So there is only what a person likes and does not like. Goes along the lines of "one man's trash..." I've seen some really odd mounts that the person skating loved and I've seen some dead on, perfect mounts that the skater can't stand. The best advice, learn to mount your own skates.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 07:04 PM   #9
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I guess I might. I think I read about temporary, no holes mounting to see "what I like." Otherwise, how would I know? Duct tape sounds like an accident waiting to happen, but if that's the routine, perhaps I'll try. My problem is I have 3 pair of skates, all with 45 degree Suregrip plates, and they all feel "fine" to me. I'm a good skater.
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Old April 20th, 2017, 07:10 PM   #10
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When I was learning how to mount skates and where I wanted them mounted I went to a 2nd hand store (Value Village, Goodwill, St Vincent de Paul) and bought multiple pairs of inexpensive shoes and cleats. Then I just started. I played around a lot, I didn't care about the shoes so it was game on. For me personally I found that I like the plates mounted differently for different pairs of skates for different skating styles. And yes I have some short plates mounted slightly rear of center. They are a pair of my OG boots. The plates are no toe stop and I swap the wheels between a set of fiberglass micros and a set of polished solid copper micros. The plate location makes for some awesome sliding sessions with the SoCal crowd. Best of luck.
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