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Old January 7th, 2018, 04:55 AM   #1
TenderSkater
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Default Looking for a comparison of 20 degree plates:

Looking for a comparison of 20 degree plates:

Crazy Venus vs Chaya Shiva (or Ophira) vs. Bont Athena vs Roll-Line Dance (or any others around 20 degrees) / Plate rec

Why: I play roller derby. The Venus has been my favorite plate, but I snapped 7 kingpins in just over a year. Since the kingpins are threaded through the plate, I would have to pull off the plate and hurridely re-mount when it happened during a game to replace the kingpin, which made me miss about a quarter of the game.

My style of skating: I block. I do both choppy steps and like to be able to have a lot of controlled slide. Not a jumper, but I stop very hard and fast, and I am guessing I stress-fractured the kingpins over time because they would break when I was only just rolling. We even tried swapping out the plates to see if mine were defective, and I broke all of the kingpins (front right, front left, etc) at least once.

Plates I have tried since the Venus:
- Pilot Falcon Plus: yuck without the adjustable kingpin, okay with it. Could not quite get the action out of it I wanted, even with the softest cushions and my lock nut threatening to come off. Hated where the toestop was. Also was something else about this plate I did not love - maybe the cushions? (which makes me worry a bit about a roll line with the shorter bottom cone, but it is also completely possible that it was not it at all - I skated the Revenge years ago, and this just felt different in a way I did not like)
- Mag Avenger: More action than Falcon, which I liked. Had a weird dead spot if I leaned into a hockey stop too much (for that plate)- had to be more straight up to break my wheels loose. Pivots always knocked out of adjustment by the end of practice. Also had to change a few trucks out in a short amount of time because the adjustable pivot locked up. (Caveat: may have been something wrong with one plate because it always felt like the left front pivot was coming through my boot even after I changed out the pivot cup and tried lowering the pivot pin way too low).
- Platinum Arius: plate is fine. I like it better than the Falcon Plus and Mag Avenger. Don't like that it feels like it has no center to return to. Feels like not all of my push always transfers to the floor. Worst thing that has happened was that the Axis pin fell out once. No kingpin for me to break.

Additional info: 170lbs, hard or medium top cushion, soft bottom cushion

I skated fine on all of the plates, and I am fine on the Platinum Arius. After a bunch of cushion tries, I am happy enough with the plate, but I still really miss the Venus. That plate felt so natural to me, and I had no adjustment period. The only complaints I ever* had was that it was a heavier plate and that I wished it had adjustable pivots.

I may be asking for something that does not exist, but I am curious to hear from people who have skated on more than one 20 (or 22) degree plate as to how they compare. I would also be fine with a Franken plate. I have been wondering if roll line trucks would fit on the Chaya Shiva. Also thought about replacing the Bont* Athena kingpins with Snyder titanium (I read somewhere that they were the same size).

TL;DR: Looking for a plate with a similar feel to the venus, but more durable and preferably lighter
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