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Old February 2nd, 2008, 02:15 AM   #81
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Oh, I'm burning at 30, trust me! The only ones I do 30 on are regulars. Everything else is mostly in the 15-25 range.

I actually like the diamond push ups a lot, and I really like the altered stuff on some of the other workouts, staggered pushups, prisons, side to sides, claps and the balance ones I really like.

I'm actually fairly good on the tricep stuff. I actually have to do 20+ of the side-tri raises to even get a burn, and I can do 25-30 of them before getting wiped.

I hope to be back at it soon.
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 03:28 AM   #82
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Got to like those clap push-ups, but those plyo ones Tony does are just sick, Like in my dreams. One day maybe one day.
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 12:44 PM   #83
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Yeah, I don't even attempt it.
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Old December 19th, 2008, 12:24 AM   #84
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TDella.......I just gotta tell ya that my mouth was hanging open when I
saw your final pictures!! You really took the bull by the horns on this
and I am sooooo INSPIRED by you!!

I have the p90x system and know all about it and Tony......
but, other than skating two or three times a week, I have kindof
"slacked off" on my workingout.........well, you have really lit a fire
under my buttinski!! I am going to start the program 1/1/2009
without fail......
I will post my results here.......maybe I too can inspire someone like
you did for me......

PS.......you look FABULOUS!!
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Old December 19th, 2008, 12:52 AM   #85
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Please do post, and good luck! I'm planning on restarting it myself. Got sick this week, which is delaying it - but soon.
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Old December 19th, 2008, 12:09 PM   #86
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Awesome Tom!
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 02:57 PM   #87
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Just started round 3 today. Whew! I'm worthless and weak! It'll be a long road back. It was good to get started.
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Old December 30th, 2008, 11:01 PM   #88
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I started p90x yesterday. The infomercial hooked me.

The plyo workout today was good, but I like my normal plyo routine better. If youíre looking for a plyometric workout to help you with your skating I think you are much better off doing workout written by skaters. Bont has some great ones on bonttv.com. I personally do a routine by Joe Cotter. It takes me about 30 minutes and the exercises are all either very explosive or they tweak your technique. Between drills we go into the skating position (90* bend with hands behind back) for 10 seconds. This helps us get used to being low.

The P90x video has some explosive stuff (although the cast isnít all that explosive) but I donít see much that will help your skating form. Nothing really requires a skating arm-swing or has skating form built in.

I think in one of the P90x videos they have a move called ďspeed skaters.Ē Itís obvious when you watch them do it that they arenít actual speed skaters
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Old December 30th, 2008, 11:13 PM   #89
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How timely, I just got upstairs from Plyo this moment . Rob I think you are right in that the plyo is absolutely not skate specific. I think it really depends on where you are in your skating too. You skate a pretty high level - me - not so much.

So when I did these last year, I felt I got a very dramatic boost in my overall fitness and strength - it made a huge difference for me. If you've never done plyos or only experimented with them, this is a great place to start and get a high level workout (it is about an hour of intensity).

However, nothing says you can't modify it. That's one of Tony's mantras. So with that in mind, I've modified some of the moves to be more skate specific. In particular, I've removed some of the higher intensity ones - like jump squats, which bother my knee and ankle - and replaced them heel/toe taps and stuff like that. For the "football" move at the end, I make that more of a crossover drill.

I'm going to look at more of Bont's move this year to see if I can't swap out a few more.

So it depends on what you want, where you're at, and what you need to get out of them. My guess is that 80%+ of people would find this workout challenging at the least, and certainly beneficial to your skating if you aren't doing any plyo.

Plus, if your the type that needs a trainer or motivation or can't really make your own program or moves, this is ideal.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Are you doing the rest of the workouts and what do you think of them? I find the rest of it to be great as well. My overall strength level really went up and I really began to burn the fat. The leg workout really helped me become stronger and I found reserves of strength last year I never had before.
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Old December 31st, 2008, 12:00 AM   #90
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There is no doubt that this workout is better than no plyo workout. You're absolutely right that those who need the encouragement of a coach or trainer, but don't have a skating specific person to look to would love this program.

As far as calories burned, I'm quite sure this is probably ahead of the program I use. This is almost twice as long as my normal routine (although I normally don't stretch much beforehand so that evens it out a little better).

I'll have to disagree with you on the skating level thing. I think any level of skater would benefit more from a skating specific one over the p90x video. Again, the p90x is much better than nothing, but not AS good for any level of skater. Even as an 11 yr old moon booter I was doing skate specific plyos and I really think it helped develope me into the skater i am now.

I was thinking about talking to Joe Cotter to see if he'd mind me doing a 30 minute plyo video that would be posted on youtube that the uncoached inlineplanet and skatelog forum junkies could use. I want to make sure it's ok with him since he was the one who showed me the program.


I plan on doing the first four weeks of the program as it is written, only with my skating, cycling, swimming, and running on top of it. I'll also be doing my normal skate specific plyo on Sunday.

I will try and stick to the second phase, but if my skating and cycling starts to take a hit I will cut some of the workouts out because I have a few early season races to prepare for. Kenpo will almost surely be cut because that falls on Saturdays (i think) and I'll be doing long bike rides and long skates

If I feel as though I can keep up with it, I'll do the third phase too, but I don't want to overtrain before the bulk of my cycling/skating races in April, May, and June.

On a side note, my wife is doing them with me. It is a huge motivation boost...especially as I get tired near the end and realize she's doing almost the same amount of pushups as me!
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Old December 31st, 2008, 03:14 AM   #91
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I would love to see a video of you doing your own, if you can do it that would be great. Because I do want to modify it to be more skate specific. And I agree, you burn a ton of calories. It really helped me drop weight, which I really needed (and still need) to do.

I rarely did the Kenpo myself, although it's a nice workout. It's actually easy. But on Saturdays I'm usually skating, like you say.

I found the YogaX to be the toughest. Not only am I very inflexible, but the some of the poses are really tough and the workout is an hour and twenty minutes, which is just too long. I generally do my own thing on that day.
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Old January 12th, 2009, 09:49 PM   #92
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hi all,

i know i'm a little bit of a johnny come lately / eavesdropper in this thread, but i found it while searching for P90X after a friend recommended the program to me. i'm attempting to work on things like speed and good form while i skate (did a lot of speed skating and took classes while i was in new jersey, and now can't find anywhere to do so in massachusetts) so i was super, super interested in the plyometrics portion of the workout and wanted to see if anyone in the forum had done the program.

tdellaringa, your pictures have DEFINITELY convinced me to pick the program up. your results are (even though you don't see it like the rest of us) really commendable. congrats!!!

sxevegan, if you get the okay to do a youtube video of the exercises you're talking about, i'd definitely be interested in them!
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Old January 12th, 2009, 09:54 PM   #93
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Thanks Hayley, I appreciate that. Let us know how it goes for you
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Old January 13th, 2009, 12:05 AM   #94
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Dang it....i forgot to ask Joe when I was at practice yesterday. I might give him a call tomorrow.

I just started week 3 today. I can see a difference in my abs already and I can do more pull ups and chinups than ever before.

I've told all my friends about the program. Time seems to fly in all of the workouts except yoga.

It's sad how much I use Tony's little sayings when I'm talking to other people.

Do your best and forget the rest!
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Old January 14th, 2009, 12:29 AM   #95
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Hey Rob.....Robin here in Austin, good to hear from ya. I too am just fixing to start P90X in 2 weeks. I believe anyone who does this will gain in his/her skating ability as far as strenth goes. If you already have good technique then this will def help out. Yes skating should be implemented with this program if skating is what you are trying to improve. Randy and Jason in Midland have just started the program about 2 weeks ago and they said its kicking their butts!!
Tdell, you are looking mighty strong there bro....keep it up! Great b4/aft pics.

Keep ya'll posted on my progress too....I'll post pics too if I'm not too embarrassed
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Old January 16th, 2009, 02:52 PM   #96
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I would love to see a video of you doing your own, if you can do it that would be great. Because I do want to modify it to be more skate specific. And I agree, you burn a ton of calories. It really helped me drop weight, which I really needed (and still need) to do.

I rarely did the Kenpo myself, although it's a nice workout. It's actually easy. But on Saturdays I'm usually skating, like you say.

I found the YogaX to be the toughest. Not only am I very inflexible, but the some of the poses are really tough and the workout is an hour and twenty minutes, which is just too long. I generally do my own thing on that day.
I just did the YogaX workout yesterday and that is one tough exercise session. I knew it would be tough as i am not very flexable at all, but after the first 45 minutes i was sweating more than i had done than perhaps any of the other workouts prior to that one. One thing i did like about the YogaX was that it stretched alot of the muscles that were sore from the previous few days like the plyometrics and the arms and shoulders and because of that those areas were much less sore than they were before i started.

so far im really enjoying the different workouts, i still need to improve in the diet area but hopefully i can work on that over the next few weeks.
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Old May 12th, 2009, 08:10 PM   #97
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Came across this article about push-ups and thought about this thread and how one of P90X's major workouts is push-ups. Is anyone still working the P90X program and how are your results?
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Old May 12th, 2009, 08:18 PM   #98
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I just started in on it again, and I have a couple friends doing it (including a couple Rainbo guys). Push ups and pull ups are great because they are body-weight exercises, and the variation in the moves gives you results.

And one thing I found out is you really build strength - not just in your arms, but full upper body strength doing it. Arms, chest, back and even some core.

What I've noticed after being off the program for awhile is that I lost a good amount of that strength by laying off too long. It's not so much noticeable visually, but I can just tell by doing things and how I feel. And holy cow, I can tell by the numbers of push ups/pull ups I'm doing, which is a little more than only half of what I was doing.

So yeah, it's good, old time exercise. You can do it anywhere, anytime. The key thing is, if you don't go with P90X specifically, that you mix up the exercises. So do regular, wide, military, heart/diamond, staggered, decline - do them all. And when you do them, you're doing max reps to fail unless you are doing two rounds. If you do something like two rounds, which is what P90X does, you kind of pace yourself through the first round so you don't kill yourself, then you go for broke on the next round.

Enjoy
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