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Old July 25th, 2019, 10:35 AM   #1
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Default I feel Another SEDS moment coming on

I've been looking at the new Bont Zeus plate and thinking why not?Can somebody tell me its rubbish so therefore saving me money...money i can spend on other SEDS related purchases.
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Old July 25th, 2019, 12:21 PM   #2
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Just buy a boen...
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Old July 25th, 2019, 05:37 PM   #3
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I've been looking at the new Bont Zeus plate and thinking why not?Can somebody tell me its rubbish so therefore saving me money...money i can spend on other SEDS related purchases.
You know at this stage an opinion isnít going to change your mind, get it bought!
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Old July 25th, 2019, 06:48 PM   #4
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I've been looking at the new Bont Zeus plate and thinking why not?Can somebody tell me its rubbish so therefore saving me money...money i can spend on other SEDS related purchases.
Wheels, wheels......
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Old July 26th, 2019, 09:10 AM   #5
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Just buy a boen...
OG Boens for sure,been trying to get some of them for over 12 months,New Boens..dunno ,would they be better than the WIPs that i roll?They look a lot like the set of Starmasters i've got just machined out in the middle.Any advice would be appreciated.
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Old July 26th, 2019, 09:12 AM   #6
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Yeh ,but Aussie Scott is way to busy,maybe i should hit up HeBeGeBe

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Old July 26th, 2019, 06:16 PM   #7
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Yeh ,but Aussie Scott is way to busy,maybe i should hit up HeBeGeBe
Well, I wouldn't let that slow me down. Shamans work well as long as you don' get the reds, the blues are too soft. So whites and green work very well for me.
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Old July 26th, 2019, 09:31 PM   #8
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Just buy a HeBeGB plate..

There, fixed it. F those boens.
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Old July 27th, 2019, 06:59 AM   #9
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YEAH that's an idea mort.
I skated his skates last year and must say they felt the same as
My Boen set up.
My problem with them is this.If I got a set I would need his big wheels to go with it.And then I most likely would not want to go back to my other setups.
And I have many.....
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Old July 27th, 2019, 08:38 AM   #10
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YEAH that's an idea mort.
I skated his skates last year and must say they felt the same as
My Boen set up.
My problem with them is this.If I got a set I would need his big wheels to go with it.And then I most likely would not want to go back to my other setups.
And I have many.....
I understand, havenít been on anything else since I went 78mm.
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Old July 27th, 2019, 02:30 PM   #11
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Well I don't want the Zeus plate anymore...now i want HeBeGebe plates and wheels maybe some Shamans and i still want some boens.I have one word for you lot ...Enablers
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Old July 27th, 2019, 02:40 PM   #12
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Forget about the shamans .They wear to fast.
What size boen you want....
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Old July 27th, 2019, 03:52 PM   #13
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Forget about the shamans .They wear to fast.
What size boen you want....
Well its like this, when I want a custom wheel that has pigment deleted it costs extra.... I want what I want, but ain't gonna pay extra for an already expensive wheel. I get almost 2 years of life out of Shamans with my setup, abusing them. The total costs over time runs about the same for me. But saying that, wear is not the same for everyone.
I look at all costs and it just goes above what I want to pay. Shamans have been very consistent for wear and grip.
Unlike older Anabolix high wear rates(8 sessions then they are slick) or Monzas(2 sessions and slick).
Now, Hebegb and Scott have some very nice wheels, no doubt, I just cannot justify the expense.

Shamans, white and green are the best wheels to be had for consistency and lower cost. I even buy them used and they work perfectly. Not so for the red Shamans, something about the chemical mix leaves them with less grip.
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Old July 28th, 2019, 06:49 AM   #14
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Your logic is flawed I'm afraid.First how can wheels that wear in a few sessions be cheaper than a better ,virtually non wearing wheel.
Ok they cost twice as much.
But your buying a new set every year.Or at best regrooving .
And also natural colored wheels don't cost extra..I only buy natural or black colored wheels.As my local rink uses bleach on the floor and it discolors colored wheels to a muddy brown color.
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Old July 28th, 2019, 11:06 AM   #15
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Forget about the shamans .They wear to fast.
What size boen you want....
Good to know about the shamans.I've been trying to get my hands on a 165 boen special or speed

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Old July 28th, 2019, 12:55 PM   #16
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Your logic is flawed I'm afraid.First how can wheels that wear in a few sessions be cheaper than a better ,virtually non wearing wheel.
Ok they cost twice as much.
But your buying a new set every year.Or at best regrooving .
And also natural colored wheels don't cost extra..I only buy natural or black colored wheels.As my local rink uses bleach on the floor and it discolors colored wheels to a muddy brown color.
Like I said, depends on the skater. Most skaters don't wear wheels out near as fast as I do. A new set a Shamans would last the 3 to 4 years. So no big deal. My wife had some cheaper wheels than Shamans and they were over 10 years old with nice grooves intact. Ive seen many sets of old Shamans used that looked almost new and were years old. Those I like to buy and do a cement break in. I sometimes get nice Shamans for around $70, then break them in. They are usually glased from age and not being applied to the correct floor(wrong duro for floor).
Like I said, depends on the skater. If you are not hard on wheels, I see no logical reason to buy high dollar wheels other than fashion or following the crowd. Ive skated Scott's long ago, nothing wrong with them, they worked just fine.
The wheels that I wore out in a few sessions were before Scott's were widely available. The Monzas were a gift that didn't hold up very well.

Btw, Last time I texted Scott, yes, no pigment wheels cost more, about $30 to $40 more on custom wheel sets.

No bleach here, wheels stay mostly white. I want to run the hardest wheels that will grip the floor, pigment is a contaminant that takes away grip.
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Old July 28th, 2019, 10:29 PM   #17
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Zeus can't go bigger than 72mm wheels. No point.
Just get new boens if you want light nts plates with clips. They don't take big wheels either, but they have been good for decades under "boiani star" name, so we know they works and you can have steel, titanium or 7075 kingpins for less money.
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Besides maybe Ferocious' setup, I don't think any other plate besides mine can run a 78mm wheel properly. And at this stage I am only doing 148mm, 158mm and 168mm axel spreads.
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Old July 29th, 2019, 12:05 PM   #19
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Besides maybe Ferocious' setup, I don't think any other plate besides mine can run a 78mm wheel. And at this stage I am only doing 148mm, 158mm and 168mm axel spreads.
I have 73mm that fit nice and my centers are 200mm, nice and comfy. Can easily handle bigger wheels.
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Old July 29th, 2019, 07:57 PM   #20
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Most Roll Line plates and Avangers fit big wheels up to 80mm at least (probably 85)
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