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Old January 23rd, 2015, 07:11 AM   #61
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Hey Scott.

In first place congratulations for your fantastic job on your current ALU Hubs and wheels

At this moment I have finished the design of 608 bearing ALU hub version and I need to calculate the price of CNC machining for each set.

As you knows is my single work and Iīm working slow because as you knows Iīm busy in my life and work.

If I understand right you have made 4 different Deano ALU hub ready to production. I think itīs a good notice for all.

Yes, when you have time, please send me private email and we talk.

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As per my email to explain I do not have 4 different Deano hubs ready and just so people don't miss my original post I was just talking about the difficulties I was having with one customers original Deano hubs.

So no Deano hubs from me I am waiting on your hubs and then once I get my hands on a set I'll be making molds to suit them.

Don't worry Paco everyone understands English is not your first language I can only imagine how difficult it must be sometimes for you to communicate in English. You do a fine job my friend it is easy enough for us all to understand your posts.
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Old January 26th, 2015, 10:49 AM   #62
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As per my email to explain I do not have 4 different Deano hubs ready and just so people don't miss my original post I was just talking about the difficulties I was having with one customers original Deano hubs.

So no Deano hubs from me I am waiting on your hubs and then once I get my hands on a set I'll be making molds to suit them.

Don't worry Paco everyone understands English is not your first language I can only imagine how difficult it must be sometimes for you to communicate in English. You do a fine job my friend it is easy enough for us all to understand your posts.
Definitely my English is not good but i will try to study a little more. My first language is Spanish and I have studied French so I find it somewhat difficult to write in English and sometimes I use google translator, hahaha.

I will try to make a CNC a alu test hub to see if all is correct and I will talk with a CNC enterprise to get a quote for several sets of hub.

In another work group of my enterprise I can machine several hub, but only a limited quantity for test.

To make a bigger number of hub I need to talk with a CNC enterprise for a quote.

I will try to be in a hurry to get a full set or more to send you soon, Scott.

I think us could be a good team partners with your tires and my hubs.

Regards and thanks again for all of your great support and suggestions.
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Old January 27th, 2015, 10:23 AM   #63
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Don't worry about your English everyone can understand you just fine.

I'm looking forward to when you can have some hubs ready for everybody.

I will then make some new molds for your hubs.

Take care mate.
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Old February 6th, 2015, 11:48 AM   #64
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Don't worry about your English everyone can understand you just fine.

I'm looking forward to when you can have some hubs ready for everybody.

I will then make some new molds for your hubs.

Take care mate.
Hello Scott,

Thanks for your support.

I expect for last of this month I will finished one set of hubs to test and for next month I think I can start CNC production. Iīm talking with a CNC enterprise for ask price for a big number of hubs to reduce price.

I will email soon to explain a little more about my idea of hub production.

I think I will need to buy several sets of your tires to show to the Spanish roller derby teams.

Roller Derby is starting and growing with force in my country.

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Old March 13th, 2015, 01:32 PM   #65
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Hi all.

Finally I have finished the 3D design for the two type of Deano compatible ALU hubs; one type of hub for 608 bearing and another for 688 micro bearing.

This design is for 688 micro bearings.





For this first work, I have ordered only 34 hubs for 688 micro bearing (4 full sets of hub + 2 hubs) because CNC alu process is not cheap.

I hope that for the 20th march, I will receive all the hubs to test.

At this moment I have one set reserved and another set is for me to test.

After testing my idea is to sell the other 2 sets.

If someone is interested, please send me private message and I will offer the best price; at this moment I only want recover some of my investment.

If you need some tires for my hubs, you can contact with Scott Corey. I will use her tires for test my hubs.

Thanks again for all of your support and suggestions.
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Old March 18th, 2015, 06:11 AM   #66
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Hi Paco,
in your picture the knurling is counter sunk into the hub it needs to be raised for the urethane to bit into it. Easy enough for me to knurl any extra hubs correctly but hopefully the finished product comes out correctly. Samples are expensive so I hope they come out good.

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Old March 18th, 2015, 06:43 AM   #67
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I have been rolling the ones I made for over a year now with no knurl and no problem.

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Old March 18th, 2015, 01:21 PM   #68
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in your picture the knurling is counter sunk into the hub it needs to be raised for the urethane to bit into it. Easy enough for me to knurl any extra hubs correctly but hopefully the finished product comes out correctly. Samples are expensive so I hope they come out good.

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Hi Scott,

Yes, as you said me the knurling it seems to be countersunk, but the knurling is only “painted” on the 3D design to show the correct position and width, because the CNC enterprise said me that the knurling is made after CNC process.

I have crossed a lot of emails with cnc enterprise to explain that the knurling needs to be raised not countersunk because last time when I have made the Delrin hub version, the last cnc process are not correct in the knurling zone...

I hope that all will be correct this time because as you knows, samples are expensive.

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Old March 18th, 2015, 01:28 PM   #69
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I have been rolling the ones I made for over a year now with no knurl and no problem.
Hi, good work with your plastic and aluminum hub.

I have seen that original Primo Deano, Labeda and Vanguard fanjet tires tends to rotate into the hub and I think that Knurling helps to solve this problem and the knurling is a improvement over the original design of 80īs.

Even the last design of the original Vanguard and Labeda Fanjet hubs in 80īs includes a knurling.

Regards from Spain.

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Old March 18th, 2015, 02:36 PM   #70
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Even the last design of the original Vanguard and Labeda Fanjet hubs in 80īs includes a knurling.
And as I recall the holes in the Fanjets were supposed to promote "cooling". There is a lot of nonsense in the skate world...

Just to be sure I pulled a hub and shot a pix. This tire/hub have been together for almost 18 months of 6-8 hours a week skating. After approx 275 hours of vigorous skating removing the hub required a press and there is no evidence of the tire rotating on the hub.



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Old March 20th, 2015, 07:42 PM   #71
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As a machinist, I have pondered the thought of making my own hubs for some time. Where do you get the 'tires'? Have searched with no luck on new ones. A bit of info on older stuff is there........
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Old March 20th, 2015, 09:23 PM   #72
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GREAT SCOTT, sorry could not resist! That would be Coreyskates.com !

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Old March 21st, 2015, 10:45 PM   #73
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As a machinist, I have pondered the thought of making my own hubs for some time. Where do you get the 'tires'? Have searched with no luck on new ones. A bit of info on older stuff is there........
If you have a vintage Deano Hubs you can buy the Super Dīs tires on Scott Corey website. A great quality tires, in different colour and hardness. If you donīt have the hubs you can buy a set of my hubs and also a set of Super Dīs tires.
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Old March 22nd, 2015, 09:19 PM   #74
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If you have a vintage Deano Hubs you can buy the Super Dīs tires on Scott Corey website. A great quality tires, in different colour and hardness. If you donīt have the hubs you can buy a set of my hubs and also a set of Super Dīs tires.
Thanks. I want to make my own hubs. Will give a look at those wheels, though!
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Old April 6th, 2015, 10:53 AM   #75
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Hello everyone.

Today, said me the German company cnc that throughout this week they send my the hubs.

Upon receipt, I will test them and I will tell you my impressions.

Thank you very much to all of you who have asked me for private, that want to buy a complete set.

I hope with your help, test better these hubs and improve in everything possible the hubs to achieve a good product.

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Old April 13th, 2015, 12:20 PM   #76
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Last Friday, finally I have received the hubs from the CNC factory.

This weekend I have tested, one by one, if micro bearings fit correct in slot bearing and mounted the hub in Scott Corey tires.

At this moment I have made only 34 hubs for 688 micro bearings and only one test hub for 608 bearing as you can see in the pictures.

I will contact, soon, by private with all that they have asked about get a set of this hubs.

And again, thanks for all your suggestions and help.

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Old April 14th, 2015, 12:05 AM   #78
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They look great Paco.
I look forward to getting the Testers.
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Old April 14th, 2015, 12:40 AM   #79
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They look exceptionally good.

If I could make one suggestion for a small improvement it would be to rework the transition shoulder from the smaller spoked ID to the slightly larger UN-spoked ID.

It could look a bit nicer if the the 90 degree step transition between the two IDs could be done as a radius similar to how the radius of the spoke fat end blends tangent to the ID.

Even a bevel transition between the two different IDs would be good.

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Old April 14th, 2015, 08:56 AM   #80
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They look superb.....

Do you have a idea of weight ????
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