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Old February 26th, 2013, 03:52 AM   #1
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Default Omega 3's

Not sure how many people know this, I didn't until recently. Fish do not contain Omega 3's, they eat it in the form of "Krill" which are very small aquatic live form and are extremely high in Omega 3's.

Krill oil is different from fish oil in a couple of ways. It's water soluble, it's red, it doesn't give you the fish oil burp and it's particles are smaller making them much easier to absorb into the body.

Not sure if I'm going to switch from my Hemp Oil or not. Need to do a little more research to find the differences between the two. Haven't found anyhting yet, but I'm just getting started.
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Old February 27th, 2013, 09:34 PM   #2
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Fish do indeed contain wonderful amounts of essential fatty acids. Who says they don't? You are on the right track with the Hempseed oil. It is right up there with walnuts and flax seed.

Every specialist and nutricianist I've spoke with or read state unanimously that salmon is the highest in the ALA/EPA/DHA fats, and the best source for Omega 3.

http://foodsforlonglife.blogspot.com...ources-of.html

I eat fish, or shrimp, or oysters every day. I like talapia and sole the best tho. (actually, lobster is the fav, obviously, then crab legs)

Once or twice a week I'll have some chicken or turkey. Ate a piece of high dollar salami yesterday. yuk.
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Old February 27th, 2013, 09:37 PM   #3
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Oh and be sure that your krill is from a sustainable harvest. That's what everything else grazes on, from whales and everyone clear down to wee beasties...

If the krill disappear, the ocean dies. It is literally the basic building block of the sea.
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Old February 28th, 2013, 12:05 AM   #4
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Foot2Big, you might want to try sardines. The main reason being that since they are so small and short lived, they tend to contain a lot less contaminants like mercury than do the long-lived fish. It adds up. Also, sardines contain significatnly less calories than salmon (which also adds up).
For best effect, try sardines packed in water or maybe one of the sauces like tomato or mustard. The ones packed in oil have a lot of calories.
Also great sources of omega 3s": nuts and flax seed.
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Old February 28th, 2013, 12:01 PM   #5
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Oh I do. I love sardines/kipper snacks etc.... Mustard sauce/hotsauce etc...

What's weird is that I used to be a BEEF only kinda guy. Didn't like chicken or turkey and most fish as a kid and even thru adulthood. Talk about a 180.
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Old March 1st, 2013, 03:19 AM   #6
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Whoa! The mustard sauce is hard core.
I'm a briesling, low-salt, in fresh spring water kind of guy, myself.
I'm poppin' a tab on a new can tomorrow in your honor, my friend.
Bon apetit!
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As with anything you should consume a variety of things. I don't think any single oil supplement (fish/krill, or others) is a end all be all.

I try to eat some beef, poultry, pork, fish, and such all in a week. A large variety of foods if you would.

Though if I think about diets as a whole we should look at our human heritage, and what our mainstream diet has been for the past 2000 years. Use that as a guide to what we should more commonly injest.

A good example is that a century or 2 ago beef was not very plentiful, now we eat so freaking much of it. Just looking at that you can see there's a lot wrong with the mainstream diet of today. The other thing is the freshness is lacking. Fresh foods have more benefits, same with precooked meals, they are less nutritious than meals cooked the day you intend to eat it, with all things considered equal.

I honestly never felt better than when I cooked almost nothing and ate everything as raw as possible(meats aside of course lol).

EDIT.

So last night I searched about fresh foods and came across a men's health ditty.

http://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/mens-h...ood-only-diet/

That completely confirms everything I've always felt about foods. I think the wife and I are going to further stay away from canned stuff, using it sparingly. Like for desserts. Apple butter anyone?

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If you are considering a fish or krill oil supplement you need to read the labels carefully.
The cheaper brands of fish oil contain negligible amounts of EPA (Eicosapentaenoic acid) and DHA (Docosahexaenoic acid). These are the most beneficial elements of Omega 3 fatty acids in regard to cardiac and anti-inflammatory response, as well as supporting eye, brain and neurological health.
The upper end products contain approximately 650mg EPA and 450mg DHA.
Expect to pay $40+ for the 1000mg/120 softgel supplements with the higher levels of EPA/DHA.
While its tempting to penny pinch when buying supplements. I think this is a definite case of getting what you pay for.
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Hey Smartin, that's a tricky one. Assuming a healthy adult, one might first consider how much of their Omega-3s they are getting from natural source like fatty fish. Eating two to three 3.5 ounce servings of fish a week can get you all you need without touching a supplement. So, how much you need or want may depend on how often you eat other omega-3 rich foods.
From what i've read, excluding the omega-3s you may be getting from food, a dose of about 1 gram EPA/DHA omega-3s is common. Strongly recommend reading the label of the bottle, though, for recommended dose.
BUt what if you are taking fish oil on top of the recommended quota for the week? With this in mind, i take 500 mg. of the EPA/DHA omega 3 fatty acids each day, and i do it in the form of inexpensive soft gels i get from Costco, 2 tablets, of the Kirkland brand. The recommeded dose on the bottle is 3 tablets, but i cut it down to 2 becuase i tend to eat fish at least couple of time a week.
As for quality of the product, there are several things to look for including, as you say, ratio of EpA to DHA, and other things as well like source of the fish oil (deep ocean water or other), has it been tested for mercury content. and the distillation proces used. I seem to remember that there is a difference between cold and hot processing which may make a difference as well.
THere is apparently warnings about taking too much as well, so best to be informed.
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 09:36 PM   #10
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Anchovies, oysters and good ol' olive oil. I love my EPA's and DHA's.
Aside from its super high Omega content, flax seed oil actually has some radioactivity protection qualities as well:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0809111821.htm

If you plan a visit to Japan or anywhere near Hanford, you might wanna stock up of the Flax.
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While not the most efficient process, Flax as a source of Omega 3 is excellent as ALA will be converted to EPA and DHA. It's a one shot deal. It has LA and OA as well (6 & 9). Not knocking fish oil, but flax contamination is unheard of to my knowledge. I'm not a huge fan of engineered nutrition, and I don't supplement much, but I take 1T of flax oil every morning.
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There are several brands of breads that are made from Flax and are delicious. I'm not a big supplement fan.

One of my favs:
Whole Foods brand dill tuna salad sandwich on FlaxSeed bread with Sirachi hotsauce and a piece of swiss and a leaf or two of romain. MMmmmm. Omega's, grains (bread), protein, capsacin (peppers) and CHEESE.

Dammit I love cheeze.... I wish a study would come out and say copious amounts of swiss cheeze was good for your goozle or something.
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PBLsQuads, it is controversial if flax seed can replicate all the health benefits of fish oils. I take both. Make sure that if you take flax seed, you get the ground kind (i.e.: flaxseed meal), becuase your body cannot break flax seed down.
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PBLsQuads, it is controversial if flax seed can replicate all the health benefits of fish oils. I take both. Make sure that if you take flax seed, you get the ground kind (i.e.: flaxseed meal), becuase your body cannot break flax seed down.
And if you mix the two, you get the added "fiber" effect. (Otherwise, Pysillum husks work fine)
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I buy the whole seeds, and use a coffee grinder to make fresh meal when I need it. Seems the absolute freshest way, and you know for sure there's nothing nasty added.
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Yes, thanks OI... In the interest of full disclosure I have a life threatening allergy that prevents me from eating fish. Flax is the next best... And I use the oil. I eat nuts and seeds of all forms regularly too. No, I can't replicate what I am missing, but I can get in the ballpark. I have thought about sardines... I am jealous. Their diet would be my question mark. It's hard. Being an Italian, I desperately miss spearing, muscles, squid....
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Yes, thanks OI... In the interest of full disclosure I have a life threatening allergy that prevents me from eating fish. Flax is the next best... And I use the oil. I eat nuts and seeds of all forms regularly too. No, I can't replicate what I am missing, but I can get in the ballpark. I have thought about sardines... I am jealous. Their diet would be my question mark. It's hard. Being an Italian, I desperately miss spearing, muscles, squid....
Ack! You poor soul..... Fish allergy? I had a buddy who was deathly allergic to shell fish, so I know what you're talking about. You can't eat any fish at all?
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Ack! You poor soul..... Fish allergy? I had a buddy who was deathly allergic to shell fish, so I know what you're talking about. You can't eat any fish at all?
Oh, yeah FTB, allergy is shellfish, but I have been nailed by cross handling so I don't do it anymore. I will occasionally go to a Kosher fish market by work, but it's kind of a pain. Years ago I was pretty cavalier about it but after a few close calls I just stay away now... As I got older it got worse and worse. I can't eat out from a deep fryer, so many weird things, it's why I love places like Bobby's Burger Palace and 5 Guys. Just a few things go into the fryer. I kill their fries! It's funny, as much as I cook and love to, how much you miss something simple like fries.
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