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Old July 1st, 2014, 05:14 PM   #1
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Default Matter G13 fake?

Hey guys,

i am new to this forum and to speed skating. Actually i skate on Bont Jet with Powerslide Vi Al frame and Matter G13 110mm F1 wheels.

I changed original Powerslide Infinity wheels for G13, but there is a problem - since i changed the wheels, my lap times are slower for 30 or more seconds in 3300m long circuit. I can't feel any positive change from my Infinity wheels and after only 10km the wheels are worn.

To the point - i have bought these wheels from chinesse e-shop, for just 150$. Here is the link: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/free-...344808552.html

So i'm thinking about possibility, that the wheels are fake. But does it worth for chinesse company to try to copy wheels like these? Or is it just me? What do you think?
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Old July 1st, 2014, 06:19 PM   #2
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They're likely fake. It's the same site that is selling fake Simmons boots and I saw the same skate on FB had fake G13's on it.

Fake Simmons:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Simmo...783268031.html
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Old July 1st, 2014, 06:38 PM   #3
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So should i throw them away and buy another wheels? I could buy a pack of good wheels for 150$ =(
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Old July 1st, 2014, 08:42 PM   #4
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So should i throw them away and buy another wheels? I could buy a pack of good wheels for 150$ =(
If you used a credit card you could try getting your money back by filing a complaint. Otherwise I guess you could still use them if they skate ok other than being slower.
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Old July 1st, 2014, 09:55 PM   #5
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Wow...

No offense, but searching through that site is amazing. There are some seriously sketchy items there.

I submit these: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/One-P...897297476.html

Take a look at the milling around the mounting plate, for instance.

And these: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/The-S...901416622.html

The frames are an obvious fake. Easy to spot: the wheel size markings are in the wrong spots. Not as easy to spot: the general geometry is different, thinner support structures, especially between the center wheels. I can imagine this frame folding under hard use or from supporting larger skaters.

I don't really even know what to say about these: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-pai...849073625.html

What is that center... thing? I don't even...

Anyway and the best one: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hot-S...371354104.html

Just... yeah.

It's kind of fun to look through, though.
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Old July 1st, 2014, 11:43 PM   #6
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I think it is really amusing to see these counterfeit products. Usually the Chinese knock off products that sell in large enough quantities to make the effort worthwhile.
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 07:10 AM   #7
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I don't really even know what to say about these: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-pai...849073625.html

What is that center... thing? I don't even...
It is SOLVEIN frame. It is a Korean Brand. They were only brand besides Bont doing 3 point boots. I know it because I ordered them a set and they answered they didn't make 45 size boot. It seems is not common size in Korea...
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 11:18 AM   #8
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I like the 3pf bont frames that only have 2 points

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Austr...129414421.html
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 04:54 PM   #9
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I like the 3pf bont frames that only have 2 points

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Austr...129414421.html
*JawDrop* How did I miss those, that's great.
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 05:58 PM   #10
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I changed "G13" back to Infinity wheels and Infinity wheels are much faster. So it is true, i threw away 150$ for fakes. I could buy MPC Blackwidow instead in my local eshop... Or can you recommend good wheels for asphalt inline circuit under 150$? Thank you.
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 06:11 PM   #11
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I changed "G13" back to Infinity wheels and Infinity wheels are much faster. So it is true, i threw away 150$ for fakes. I could buy MPC Blackwidow instead in my local eshop... Or can you recommend good wheels for asphalt inline circuit under 150$? Thank you.
If you can get Bont Mayhems they'd be a decent choice for just about any surface and they've been on sale lately.
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 06:44 PM   #12
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dave would never make a boot that cheap looking.
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 07:03 PM   #13
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They're likely fake. It's the same site that is selling fake Simmons boots and I saw the same skate on FB had fake G13's on it.

Fake Simmons:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Simmo...783268031.html
At $180 it might be interesting to see how bad they are. After all, they are still cheaper than just about any other Chinese made (Bont, Luigino, etc) boot.
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check out the "Matter Juice" on MPC turbo hubs!

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Origi...772158026.html
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check out the "Matter Juice" on MPC turbo hubs!

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Origi...772158026.html
Those Vaypors actually look kinda comfy around the ankle...
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 10:58 PM   #16
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At $180 it might be interesting to see how bad they are. After all, they are still cheaper than just about any other Chinese made (Bont, Luigino, etc) boot.
Look again, i think that's $180 per boot, not per left right pair!
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 11:05 PM   #17
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http://www.aliexpress.com/item/FIGHT...722275055.html
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 09:23 AM   #18
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Custom Bonts in 10 days..........2010 model
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 11:27 AM   #19
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They are fake. The price for 110mm G13 wheels is about $200 in China.
As a Chinese, I really feel shame about this.

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Hey guys,

i am new to this forum and to speed skating. Actually i skate on Bont Jet with Powerslide Vi Al frame and Matter G13 110mm F1 wheels.

I changed original Powerslide Infinity wheels for G13, but there is a problem - since i changed the wheels, my lap times are slower for 30 or more seconds in 3300m long circuit. I can't feel any positive change from my Infinity wheels and after only 10km the wheels are worn.

To the point - i have bought these wheels from chinesse e-shop, for just 150$. Here is the link: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/free-...344808552.html

So i'm thinking about possibility, that the wheels are fake. But does it worth for chinesse company to try to copy wheels like these? Or is it just me? What do you think?
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 11:32 AM   #20
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They are worse than you thought.
You can even buy a pair of speed skate boots at $50 in China.

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