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Old September 23rd, 2015, 11:28 AM   #1
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Default Roll Line Killer plates

So I bought some yesterday. They're 155mm with 7mm steel axles (I was too tight to spring for the titanium axles). Similar in design to the DB12, just with a slightly higher deck height. They're 18*in the front and 16* in the back. Feel nice and solid but not as light as you think.
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Old September 23rd, 2015, 11:30 AM   #2
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Old September 23rd, 2015, 11:32 AM   #3
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They look nice.
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Old September 23rd, 2015, 11:34 AM   #4
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Plates weigh 450g or 15.95oz each. That's with trucks, cushions and axle
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Old September 23rd, 2015, 11:36 AM   #5
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Roll Line are offering 8mm axles now too!
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Old September 23rd, 2015, 08:01 PM   #6
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Those look awesome! Let us know how they skate .
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Old September 23rd, 2015, 08:52 PM   #7
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Just like a Mistral I would speculate.... which is not a bad thing. I put Mistral bits on the bottom of the last Killer I had in the shop, just to see. They fit just like the Killer parts fit on the Mistral.... as in I could not tell the difference.

The geometry looks the same to me. Next time I will measure the angles.
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Just like a Mistral I would speculate.... which is not a bad thing. I put Mistral bits on the bottom of the last Killer I had in the shop, just to see. They fit just like the Killer parts fit on the Mistral.... as in I could not tell the difference.

The geometry looks the same to me. Next time I will measure the angles.
Looks like 20 degrees just measuring the pic. I think they only make 20 don't they, except the DB-12 which is 12 degrees on one end. Could be wrong, but 20 degrees is kind of their whole schtick.
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Old September 23rd, 2015, 10:26 PM   #9
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I think it is different, just not that pronounced. I don't notice it at a quick glance. I was told the front and back trucks weren't interchangeable as they wouldn't fit. I'll pull them apart tomorrow and check that. I'll see how my Variant trucks fit on them also
Once I've mounted them and taken them for a test drive I'll give them a review.
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Roll Line are offering 8mm axles now too!
Awesome. Good to see they are going more robust. Especially since derby is so abusive on gear. Heck Id love some 10mm axle'd trucks. Heavier? Yea, so what. Richard wouldnt buy it ... (lol) But the strength, wouldnt bend one of those very easy thats for sure!
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Looks like 20 degrees just measuring the pic. I think they only make 20 don't they, except the DB-12 which is 12 degrees on one end. Could be wrong, but 20 degrees is kind of their whole schtick.

Just measured a new (slotted) Variant. 16 on both ends.

Interestingly enough, over the years I have had almost all of the "15" Roll Lines not want to have the front and rear trucks swap over after I mounted the plates. For reasons unknown for certain, the rear pivot was always adjusted a bit longer so it would not sit properly in front. Nothing a bit of adjustment would not fix.

Yes most of the Roll Lines are "15". The Ring and the Dance are around 22 Never had my hands on a DB12 so I cannot say.


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Just measured a new (slotted) Variant. 16 on both ends.

Interestingly enough, over the years I have had almost all of the "15" Roll Lines not want to have the front and rear trucks swap over after I mounted the plates. For reasons unknown for certain, the rear pivot was always adjusted a bit longer so it would not sit properly in front. Nothing a bit of adjustment would not fix.

Yes most of the Roll Lines are "15". The Ring and the Dance are around 22 Never had my hands on a DB12 so I cannot say.


Interesting. Next time I have my Navigator apart, I'll check it out. 22 degrees would be sweet though I would imagine. I had no idea they were different. Trucks all look the same to me. I don't see a bunch of roll lines though other than just what is posted.

You know I am excited they are starting to offer 8mm axles. Every dog has it's day.
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Interesting. Next time I have my Navigator apart, I'll check it out. 22 degrees would be sweet though I would imagine. I had no idea they were different. Trucks all look the same to me. I don't see a bunch of roll lines though other than just what is posted.

You know I am excited they are starting to offer 8mm axles. Every dog has it's day.
The truck castings are essentially the same. How they are machined is not. The Matrix (which has a shorter barrel cushion and king pin but same KP angle and pivot cup location as the other "15" Roll Lines.) In order to get the standard truck casting to work the angle of the pivot pin was changed so it is no longer on the axis of the pivot arm but tipped forward. This truck is used on the Ring and the Dance as well to compensate for the 22 king pin with the standard cushions.

As far as 8mm axles, what ever trips your trigger. Mota is supposed to be bringing out 8mm flips for their "new" plate. I can hardly wait.

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Good to know. Thanks Doc.
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