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Old August 21st, 2014, 12:14 PM   #21
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I've looked at your skates and I can tell you are into speed only. I've been a quad skater off and on since 1966, close to 50 yrs. In my early years, 66-73 I was into freestyle, dance, (not the same dance done today) and figure. I didn't do speed. But the guys in our club that were in speed used a Snyder Super Deluxe plate under a Riedell 297 boot. They run Chicago maple wooden wheels, 45mm with open bearings. Keep in mind, these wheels are for wood rinks. This is definitely not a concrete floor or outdoor set up. But back in my day, these were fast, hug the floor really good and they came out of turns tightly hugging the inside.

Just givin a plug for the old school stufff.
So what's the suggestion?
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Old August 21st, 2014, 12:20 PM   #22
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Older thread, but I think that the real difference here was when the new plates were put on the front axle position was pushed forward slightly. That allows for you to hammer down out of the turns. If the OP remounted his old plate as far forward as possible I'm sure the results would be the same, with just a tiny bit more speed on the whip, and slightly more turn on the Avenger.

A friend of mine who I hooked up with a carrera so he didnt have to wear gawd awful rentals, his skate had this exact problem. the skate was incredibly tippy up front, and anytime you tried to come out of a hard lap during session using any bit of your calf was impossible. I took the size 7 probe off his size 10 skate and put a size 9 probe in its place from a 13 carrera I didn't wear.
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Old August 21st, 2014, 01:40 PM   #23
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I've looked at your skates and I can tell you are into speed only. I've been a quad skater off and on since 1966, close to 50 yrs. In my early years, 66-73 I was into freestyle, dance, (not the same dance done today) and figure. I didn't do speed. But the guys in our club that were in speed used a Snyder Super Deluxe plate under a Riedell 297 boot.
Back in the 60s the Snyders were single action, right? We could probably argue single versus double action. However...

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They run Chicago maple wooden wheels, 45mm with open bearings. Keep in mind, these wheels are for wood rinks. This is definitely not a concrete floor or outdoor set up. But back in my day, these were fast, hug the floor really good and they came out of turns tightly hugging the inside.
Do not use wood wheels. Floor coatings have changed in the past few decades, and wood wheels are no longer a good idea.
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Old August 31st, 2014, 03:41 AM   #24
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I don't care what you are skating on; if you want to turn right, but your eyes and head are looking left, that is where you'll go. It can also happen when you are driving.

Body position is of the utmost importance. Going hard into turns requires the head to be pointed toward one's shoulder, with the hips, legs and feet following, rather than head to the outside of the circle. The head controls the direction of the lower body.

If you don't believe the head controls the lower body, try turning over in bed, feet first.
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