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Old April 5th, 2014, 10:45 PM   #1
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Hi DocSk8

I've got a new arius plate...problem is I can't get the toe stop to tighten at all. I don't want to over tighten it as I am afraid I'll strip the thread. Any idea why this is happening? Is there any way to safely tighten the toe stop as much as possible without stripping the thread?

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Old April 6th, 2014, 03:25 AM   #2
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Hi DocSk8

I've got a new arius plate...problem is I can't get the toe stop to tighten at all. I don't want to over tighten it as I am afraid I'll strip the thread. Any idea why this is happening? Is there any way to safely tighten the toe stop as much as possible without stripping the thread?

Many thanks

Rox

Interesting. I don't use a toes stop but I will try some of the ones I have in the shop in my Arius and see if I have that issue.

Something else to consider. The shank on the stop may be @ (or below) the minimum standard engineering specification for the 5/8-18 UNF thread. Pretty easy to check with a caliper or micrometer.. I don't know the class of fit the manufacturers are aiming for, but if the diameter of the threads on the stop are less than 0.6105, they stop is most likely to blame, especially if the threads in the plate ar @ the large end of the tolerance.


If ya don't have access to precision measuring, try some other stops. It may not be a plate issue @ all. Good luck, and let us know what you find out.
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Old April 7th, 2014, 11:16 AM   #3
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Hi again Doc

I've tried moonwalkers, gumballs, canberra's (?) and rx toe stops - all did the same thing. I'd tighten and tighten but could easily twist round the toe stop with my hand.

HOWEVER...

I've actually managed to find someone else who's had the same problem. They've put me onto a local (NZ) skate mechanic who explained the problem to my husband while I was at training...sooo this is 3rd hand information but it did work! (That is I didn't speak to the skate mech directly)

Apparently there is a design fault with the Arius plate's toe stop hole thread in that it is too shallow. Wiggling the actual toe stop slightly while tightening and also putting a bit of lubricant on the base of the head of the plate bolt that tightens the toe stop somehow does the trick. The skate mech. explained it all but my husband; BUT he was more focuses on getting the toe stop tightened so I would stop nagging him than the actual mechanics of the thing Maybe you can shed some light on why this is cuz I'd like to know...(please)
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I was not even thinking about what you seem to be describing in your second post. So, let's clarify.

1) The first one told me the clamp did not tighten the stop once it was in the plate.
2) Your second post tells me you could not screw the stop into the plate until the last sentence.

Then you jump back to the clamp screw.
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I just checked mine. I had no issues installing or removing several different stops. The clamp screws worked fine.
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Hi Doc - must be a language barrier because I don't understand your point number 2...! The toe stop could screw into the plate but the clamp wouldn't tighten it (AT ALL!) Maybe the defective ones get sent to NZ :P
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