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Old July 5th, 2018, 06:23 PM   #1
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Default Uneven strap pressure: is it normal?

I’m new to speed skating, and may have a problem with my boots: the buckle/strap applies very uneven pressure across the top of my foot. When the strap is tight along the bottom (toe side) edge, there is still enough room along the top to stick my finger into. This seems problematic, as my heel doesn’t lock into place as well as it probably should.

Are there fixes for this, or at least suggestions as to the cause?

The boots are Powerslide Core Icon Lites, and I’m a EU43/44 with narrow-standard feet...but maybe very skinny ankles.

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Old July 6th, 2018, 03:59 PM   #2
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Looks like you have more notches to tighten a bit more.
Crank them down and see how it feels.
But go skate on them and adjust after warmup.
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Old July 9th, 2018, 09:46 PM   #3
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I noticed this on a different companies boots a few years ago. I ended up drilling a new hole for the buckle so that is lined up with the strap better.
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Old July 13th, 2018, 11:53 PM   #4
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Thanks for the replies. I finally had the time and inclination to try them again; even with the laces as tight as I can get them, thereís still a fair bit of play around my ankles (to say nothing of the oddly-angled strap).

I went to an ice skating shop in town, looking for thos Ezeefit booties, and was told that my ankles are indeed sorta skinny. They also gave me some tips for if/when I heat mold the boots; using that Saran Wrap-like stuff that delivery pallets are wrapped in to compress the boot and remove the negative space while itís cooling.

For now, Iíll track down some of those booties in hopes that they decrease the severity of my problem and need to heat mold.
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Old August 2nd, 2018, 03:57 PM   #5
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Hi, I had the same issue and the ezfits did not solve it for me. The problem was a boot that was too soft for me and not heat-moldable and thus not adjusted to my ankles (It was Powerslide R2). I went for another boot (Bont Jets) and the problem is resolved. It was heat-molded for me at the shop in a very clever way: once the boots were heated-up they put both my feet with the boots on into plastic bags that were connected to a small compressor. The compressor was running for the entire time of cooling down of the boots and sucking out the air. It was really compressing my feet quite hard and i was afraid it would be too tight, but when the compressor was switched off the boots loosened up and felt like made for my feet. Since then I did not have a single blister, even though the bonts are quite rigid and tight.
I believe you could try it with a combination of some plastic vacum bags that can be connected to a vacuum cleaner. If air-tight it could do the job. I mean the sort of plactic bags that are used for packing stuff or storing stuff to save space.

Bottom line is that if you ankles are not tightly supported by the boot you will not be able to advance your technique. At least this was the case with me, and I surely saw a big boost in my confidence to work on the technique as well as an objective contribution to my technique (bad boots were part of my pronation problem).

Looking at the pics you wont be able to solve the problem with tighter straps or the ezfits. In my case even further tightening of the boots (which is no longer possible in your case as you've achieved the max, it seems) did not help, but create problems as the tightening exerted extra pressure on my ligaments in front of my ankle (those coming down from the front of the shin), and caused pain.
I know this is hard as you have new boots, but it maybe the only way to swap them against some other model.
Good luck.
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Old August 2nd, 2018, 05:50 PM   #6
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Find the EzeeFits here: https://www.ezeefitsports.com/

They make a 2mm and a 3mm thick material, which can help take up some of that excess volume you have around the ankles.

I would recommend to double check that the size is correct. While barefoot and keeping the laces loose, slide your toes up to the front end of the boots, until they touch the front end. Then flex your ankle forward and check in behind the heel to see how much gap space there is. If you can get your index finger in down behind your heel you are about 1 size too big(approx 1cm). An acceptable amount of space is 5mm or less. If the boots are simply too big, it will be impossible to mold them smaller to the point that they fit correctly.

I'd also suggest in re-molding the boots to really squeeze them in prior to slipping your foot in the boots. In doing so slide your foot in delicately as to not open up the boots in the process. I have very narrow ankles and this works well. You can use sport tape to a non-stretchy wrap to hold them in place, or enlist a friend to help keep pressure on them while they are cooling.
Industrial wrap will still stretch and may not give the result desired, but worth a try, in worse case you can always remold.

Strap placement is a common problem we're seeing with boots as the cuffs have lowered over the last few decades. As result the lowered strap position is not really not effective in holding the heel down in the ankle pocket. They are being set across the instep(arch), and if over-tightened they flatten the arch, resulting in numbing pain across the top tendon that extends to the toes, and/or they cause planter fascia pain for many skaters.

Each boot maker sets the straps with variation.

How to resolve a strap placement issue - If inclined, you can re-position the strap, or have a show repair restitch the material side to a more suitable location. Along with this, you can re-drill a new hole and remount the buckle appropriately (in doing this do not set the new hole for the buckle to close to the existing, and fill the old hole with epoxy). I have done this with boots where the strap was off. I've also used an exacto knife to trim of the excess lower part of the strap material to allow the strap to lay flat.

Keep us posted as to how you resolve the issues.
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