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Old May 10th, 2013, 10:45 PM   #1
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Default Apostle Islands race division confusion

I bought the plane tickets so I am now committed to the Apostle Islands Marathon. Now it is time for the less vexing part of actually registering but I'm a bit confused about the categories.

Apostle Islands has "Pro/Advanced" and "Fitness/Rec"

I am certainly no pro or elite but I've been wave A in all three North Shore marathons that I have done. 1:14:58 in 2008, which is the last year I could afford to travel to races and about 1:30 at Napa, which is a slower course.

Where do the fast and competent but still cooperative packs operate at Apostle?

Last edited by ese002; May 10th, 2013 at 10:52 PM. Reason: Fixed error in NSIM 2008 time.
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Old May 11th, 2013, 12:05 PM   #2
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Pro/Advanced is the one you'll want. You're basically choosing the "wave" you start with.
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Old May 11th, 2013, 01:15 PM   #3
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Yeah, most races don't have a dedicated advanced wave anymore. You could probably skate in the rec wave and be with the front runners or in the pro/adv wave and finish a ways back in the pack. That's usually my dilemma too and choose to skate with the fast guys. I'll never be in contention to win, but it makes me a better skater.
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Old May 15th, 2013, 01:03 AM   #4
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Maybe I just came into too late but it never seemed like Advanced waves were common. Duluth: yes. The late Long Beach Marathon also had Pro, Advanced, and Rec but that is it from my personal experience. Other races have been mostly mass start with a Pro/Elite category and an "everyone else" category.

What makes Apostle confusing is calling the top category "Pro/Advanced". "Advanced", when mentioned at all, isn't normally lumped in with "Pro" but it is hard to imagine that organizers for Apostle would not be familiar with the NSIM names.

Road Rash also uses strange names. "Pro" and "Open" waves. "Open" at Duluth is the top end of "Pro". But since there there are only two categories, it is pretty easy to determine that "Open" at Road Rash means "everyone who is not pro".
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Old May 15th, 2013, 03:23 AM   #5
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Pro Advanced? Hmmm, sounds confusing. Categorically, there should really only be: Pro Junior, Pro Elite, or Pro Masters. All else is usually Open / Age Group Division.
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 01:21 AM   #6
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So, where does everyone fly into? Duluth? drive 2hrs? Or St.paul/minn, and drive 4 hrs?
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