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Old March 1st, 2017, 11:35 AM   #59
Derrick
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Default Still working on the IB after all this time

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Originally Posted by markwphoto View Post
@Batonstar, I'm kind of in the same boat as you learning the OB spin/sit spin/camel but I've made a lot of progress the last few weeks. I started skating when I was 18 and skated competition a few years. I always had a very good left IB upright and sit spin but I could never grasp the outer back. I stopped skating around 25 and fast forward quite a few years, I started back at it when I turned 40 last year.

Even though I'm not as young as I used to be things seem to be clicking a lot faster for me now. I guess it's because I'm understanding the mechanics of how things work a lot better now and I can analyze what I'm doing wrong now on my own.

Here's what helped me:

1. Practicing a lot of figure 3 turns on a right inner forward to right outer back 3 turn. This will help you get used to the flipping motion you need to change to the outer back edge. Make sure the 3 turn slides and doesn't hop. Also after you do the turn make sure the left hip is higher than the right hip that you're skating on! I mean like seriously exaggerate it. This was key for me and helped me elsewhere. More on that later.

2. After rolling the figure circle with 3 turns. Roll outer back circles in a smaller diameter. Not quite as small as a loop circle but this will get you used to pressing the edge. Try to feel the pressure on your pinky toe and press the outside of your right knee to the pinky toe. Again be sure to hold your left hip up and don't poke your right hip out!

3. Still practice - From a still position with your feet about shoulder with apart push and roll a right inner forward. Be sure to feel the pressure on the right inner heel wheel. When you're ready push off with the left foot and slide the inner heel to the outer back. Key points make sure you lift your left hip up higher than the right and don't poke out your right hip. As far as the arm the biggest thing is to not let them move at all once you commit to the turn.

4. After doing the above for it seems like a billion times you can start rolling a deep left inner forward to a deep right inner forward 3-turn slide right into the outer back. As soon as you make the 3-turn press your knee to the pinky toe and hold the pressure as long as you can. The more you do it the smaller the circle will get and before you know it, you'll be spinning an outer back.

My outer back is getting more consistent with each practice and I've only been working on it for a few weeks. The outer back sit is also getting there as well. I can't quite get it as low as my inner back sit but I'm sure I will eventually. Now as for the camel... yeah I'm still working on that but I made some progress yesterday with 3 good spins that spun for 2 revolutions.

As I said before the key for me was not dropping my left hip and not poking my right hip out. After getting this right it has also helped me tremendously with my jumps! I went from single jumps to doubles over night just by fixing my hips! I have to consciously tell myself before I jump (or spin for that matter) "hold your left hip up," and every time I do I land my doubles and nail my spins every time. It's like it's magic.

I hope this helps and feel free to ask any other questions if you have them. I'll try to help as best as I can.
Funny, I've been working on the IB in my basement. I'm a hack and hate to give any unconfirmmed advice anymore. But I have also found the higher the hip is key on the IB as well.
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