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Old March 23rd, 2016, 03:27 AM   #8
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Hi rssole,

nice to hear that you want to do more slalom skating. I do slalom for recreation and prefer stylish execution over trick count any day.

My comments on TRIX, KSJ, and IGOR:

The TRIX (2014) was my first serious skate. After about 10 months, the inner lining started to wear out (in the heel/ankle area). I used to be careful while putting the skates on, because the same thing has already happened to a friend (with IGOR). That didn't avoid it though. Later I learned that it happens to all my slalom friends. Skates wear, just like cothes wear. Don't expect to get more than one year free of trouble (unless you do just occasional skating).

After getting my liners patched, I was disappointed with the result and realized that it was time for new skates. A perfect opportunity to find the best and most exciting skates, improving on everything, opening a new world, just like what the TRIX did for me when I got them first! So I checked reviews on internet and tested skates from friends.

My highest hopes were on the IGOR, but trying them on was very disappointing. I expected firm support, but the opposite was true. At least on my feet, the IGOR has a looser fit than the TRIX, especially when it comes to lateral support. The stiffness of the IGOR boot does not permit lacing as tight as I want to. It is heavier than the TRIX is (bcs of the wider footbed, slide protectors, heelpad, cuff, larger frame mating plate). Also, the IGOR liners tend to wear out in a similar way like my TRIX. For me the IGOR is all disadvantages, except for the heel pad maybe.

After two weeks of researching and testing, I realized that the best skate for me was actually the TRIX that I already had. So I bought another pair of them, and this time I customized the flat stock frame for a deluxe rockered. I couldn't have been happier with my new skates!!!

Another 6 months later I saw the promo video of the KSJ 2015 edition. I had already tried the WFSC before, and the 2015 editions were said to have an improved liner design. Again I thought that these shiny new skates will add extra fun to my favourite hobby, and ordered them without doing any further research. Again, frame and wheels needed to be switched for better ones.

It was an impulse decision. I don't regret it, but it didn't turn out stellar either. Several months in, I still prefer skating with the TRIX.

KSJ and TRIX are very similar. The KSJ is supposed to weight 40 gramms less (I didnt verify that). My TRIX come in at 1540 gramms each, incl frame and worn wheels and street dirt on them. Both are definately among the lightest skates ever made. Putting the KSJ on is more difficult, because the liner has a rougher finish and my socks keep sticking to it. The stiffness of the boot is identical from toe to heel and up to the ankles. Above the ankle, the TRIX is more flexible than the KSJ. The stiff border at the top of KSJ causes injuries to my legs while fitness skating (but not while doing slalom). In general, the KSJ cause pain while the TRIX do not.

I like the extra flexibility of the upper parts of the TRIX. It helps tight lacing and makes the skate fit my foot like a glove. During the first 90 minutes of slalom, I can't feel any significant advantage of either skate. The handling is very similar. During longer sessions, I wish for less flexibility in the upper area of the TRIX. It feels like if the composite materials become a bit more bland after constantly massaging them with slalom bending forces.

On the other hand, the KSJ begin to hurt after an hour, so I rarely keep them on for longer than 2 hours. The extra stiffness is appreciated during some moves, but comes at a price that negates most of its benefits.

All in all, the KSJ can't trump the TRIX for me. My next skate will be a TRIX 2014 again. I can only hope that there is still stock available when my 2nd pair eventually wears out..

My advice for you is:

If your Twisters still are in a somewhat acceptable shape, follow the suggestion given by other posters and rocker them. It makes so much of a difference! Get 4 new wheels and pair them with your 4 most worn out ones. It will feel like completely different skates, all without the pain of a new boot.

Good wheels are Matter Juice F1 80mm. You can complete them with another set of 76mm later, if you decide to keep your old skates. Or you can use them as spare for whatever new skate you will buy.

Before you buy any skates, try them on, and try them skating (borrow them from a friend). A more expensive skate is not necessarily better for you. In the end it depends on your anatomy and skating style.

Rockered setup, quality components (stiff frame, bearings, wheels) and light-weight boots that fit your feet well. This is what you have to look for. The rest is just marketing, hearsay or following what others do.

Skating, and especially slalom, is a very individual sport. Videos, instructors, and friends can help you pick up stuff faster, but in the end you are the one who has to figure out the dynamics of each trick. Much of that works through repetition and self observation. And it comes with a psychological component attached to it. If you believe that modifying your old skates is not good enough for slalom, they will not work for you.

Luckily, the opposite is also true.

Best regards,
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